[p2p-research] from-open-business-models-to-an-economy-of-the-commons/

Sat Aug 21 12:09:22 CEST 2010

yes, we discussed our joint desire to see the p2p-f going forward towards
sustainability,

the knowledge commons already existed, and so did my understanding on open
business models, I continue to read, think and refine, and covnerse, and I'm
sure your own understanding is valid, but I don't any intellectual
influence,

please Alex, validation will come in time, if other people find it valid,but
the more you push for it, the more it will escape you .. , before our
conflict, I promoted your work consistently, as you know

however, you'll understand that once you declared your intent to push me
out, I have lost that enthusiasm, nevertheless, I would cite you if
appropriate, but in this case, there was no reason to .. If you feel I
should cite alex rollin in all my public interventions, you are setting
yourself up for disappointment .. Already I'm refraining from the normal
acknowledgements I would do, because the few times I've done it, you were
not happy, it's never strong enough, so the result is, I'm very cautious of
saying anthing, less it be misunderstood

I would really restrain myself for asking validation in such a public
fashion, it does more harm than good,

such reproaches should be dealth privately, but since you ask it, I did
respond in the same fashion,

Michel

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com> wrote:

>  I must have dreamed our conversations about the coop, the coop directory,
> and the p2p foundation knowledge commons.  Ill need to get more sleep.
>  Wouldnt want to influence your thinking!
>
> Come on Michel, get real.
>
>
>
> On Aug 21, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>   sorry Alex, I haven't read them, so it would be inappropriate to cite
> someone who has had zero influence on my thinking
>
> this is of course not to say it is valueless, and could be useful for
> others, but I have had no time to process it .
>
> Michel
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> How about a reference next time?
>>
>> This is exactly what I've been writing about in the 775 pages I've
>> altered on the wiki.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> http://www.masternewmedia.org/from-open-business-models-to-an-economy-of-the-commons/
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Robin Good <Robin.Good at masternewmedia.org>
>> > Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:19 PM
>> > Subject: Re: in roma ...
>> > To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > it's right there:
>> > www.masternewmedia.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Robin
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Michel Bauwens <
>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> do let me know when it is online!
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Robin Good
>> >> <Robin.Good at masternewmedia.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Welcome back Michel!
>> >>> What a coincidence: today we are publishing your second video!
>> >>> It will be out in less than one hour or so.
>> >>>
>> >>> Amalfi is wonderful - see to enjoy and capture a few stills!
>> >>> Rome waives!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Robin
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Michel Bauwens
>> >>> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> hi guys,
>> >>>> on my way to salerno ... in roma termini
>> >>>> since I don't know yet about the last leg from salerno to amalfi, and
>> I
>> >>>> don't have email responses yet,
>> >>>> I just bought a phonecard and can be reached via 3899541343
>> >>>>
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