[p2p-research] p2p critiques of marxism

[Michel Bauwens]

Dear friends,

Here is an invitation by Jean Lievens, to which I intend to respond.

see
http://freemarxism.blogspot.com/2010/06/how-relevant-is-nationalisation-today.html

Jean, it would help if you have time to direct the process, say by sending
me one prompt at a time, and to do this serially in manageable throught
capsules,

This copy is intented to generate eventual extra reactions from our p2p
discussion list participants:

pleasse use reply all so jean is part of the debate

 How relevant is nationalisation
today?<http://freemarxism.blogspot.com/2010/06/how-relevant-is-nationalisation-today.html>
 On my blog resolutierevolutie <http://revolutieresolutie.skynetblogs.be/>witch
is unfortunately in Dutch, I wrote an article describing the relevance of
nationalisation today. The main point I wanted to make in this article was
that during times of crisis, all the major industries (banks, car industry,
airlines…) are knocking on the door of the state asking for help. There was
a time however that they presented the state or big government as the source
of all their problems. Now big government must step in to bail them out.

In addition, the public in general are looking to the state for solutions
for all the economic and ecological (BP oil spill) problems. Therefore,
according to me, the left should use this to push forward the idea of
nationalisation under worker’s control and management, but in a modern
fashion. We should present it as an enlargement of the public sector, which
in its turn needs to be “de-bureaucratised”.

I received the following reaction from Michel Bauwens
<http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/>from the p2p-foundation:

What if we would look at mutual coordination based on open book management;

what if we look at commons and trusts instead of state-based
nationalization?

What if we look at civil society based solutions instead of using the
bourgeois state forms?

I would like Michel to clarify these proposals and, in addition, summon up
his main criticism on Marxism: what ideas of scientific socialism he thinks
are still valid (if any), and what ideas should we reject?
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