[p2p-research] conference on p2p urbanism

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Fri Aug 13 08:22:04 CEST 2010 

Hi,

Tino, realistically speaking, 'someone from the p2p foundation' can only be
you <g>, helped by me and perhaps Eric?

As I indicated, I'll be mostly travelling from the end of august to the end
of november, with only the occasional week between trips,

So if you do not take the lead, I don't see much happening in concrete terms

I like your survey/google maps idea, because I have already collated
hundreds of tags on related topics, which could be translated/inputted into
your system

I can more easily support you with the latter, while the conference itself
is more difficult, since I'm tied up with the berlin commons conference as
well ..

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:15 AM, tino_rizzo <tino_rizzo at yahoo.it> wrote:

> Hello everybody (Ciao Stefano),
>
> I very like the opportunity given to us by Stefano and Nikos.
>
> 1) I think the P2P Urbanism could be one of the section in Citta' Umana.
> This allows greater flexibility and somebody from P2P foundation could be
> the curator/manager of such sub-section.
>
> 2) We could think to do a survey of innovative p2p practices in urban
> planning in Europe.
> I am familiar with Finland and Germany and I myself have worked in an
> innovative research/project in Estonia, Russia, and Sweden in collaboration
> with Bauhaus Dessau. We could ask to other people to look for "p2p-like"
> approaches in urban planning in the rest of Europe and even beyond. It would
> be like having a "person/sensor" for each country.
>
> Once we have names, projects by country we could think to organise this
> material as Nikos suggested. We could interview people involved and publish
> everything on Vimeo.
>
> 3) We could even work on a World Map of P2P Urban practices in the World.
> Using Google Maps we collect all the information on p2p innovative urban
> practices and create such a map. It could be an exercise of open shared
> knowledge as Gmap allows to work in group.
>
> The map could be printed (like mega-poster) and shown for the conference as
> well as published on the web.
>
> 4) having the resources, people and time we could invite some p2p leading
> researchers to give a workshop within the conference in Rome. We could even
> link with local (roman) NGOs to organize something more open to the public
> or even a mini-experiment of p2p urban planning in Rome. A sort of simple,
> open, higly participatory, and creative temporary intervention as me and
> michail galankis did in Estonia and Finland in the frame of "Transurbanism"
> (give a look to this
> http://cityleft.blogspot.com/p/urban-art-interventions.html)
>
> Best Regards,
>
> tino
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks Stefano,
>>
>> I'm not going to take the lead in this myself, since it is a specialized
>> domain. Tino can you help in getting this off the ground, and feel free to
>> ask me for any support?
>>
>> Michel
>>
>>   On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:20 AM, Stefano Serafini <metafrasis at alice.it>wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> thank you for involving me in this interesting proposal. I'm of course
>>> really happy to host the p2p conference in the congress "La città umana" to
>>> be held next february in Rome. Conference approach is multidisciplinary, and
>>> yet theme is urbanism and human-scale architecture, grounding subject is:
>>> overcoming nichilism. Contributions will come from Economists, Ecologists,
>>> Politics, Philosopers, Sociologists, Mathematicians, Psychologists - and I
>>> suspect that specialists from these fields will offer the best ideas for
>>> renovating Urbansim and Architecture, helping to re-connect them to human
>>> needs. P2P may have a great role in this, by presenting an alternative way
>>> of thinking and operating. Both a direct participation in Rome conference,
>>> or a connection to the on-line event would be welcome. We can even share the
>>> sponsors, uniting the forces for fund-raising.
>>>
>>> As the event will be scientific, I don't worry too much about political
>>> partisanship. We plan to invite global thinkers, people belonging to
>>> different ideals, and with different political ideas - we look for people
>>> believing in ideas, contributing to an urgent debate, and giving a chance to
>>> human future. Most of participants will be young and innovative, and most of
>>> them belong to different worlds. I'm pretty sure several political parties
>>> will look for heads and ideas during the event.
>>>
>>> More the universities and associations will be involved, more the event
>>> will be succesfull. At the moment we have as organizers: Gruppo Salingaros,
>>> Italia Nostra, Roma Tre University of Rome, The Notre Dame University. I'm
>>> engaged with other institutions to become part of this project, but quite in
>>> rush, as Call for paper will be ready by the end of August only. Suggestions
>>> are wlecome.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Stefano Serafini
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nikos Salingaros пишет:
>>>
>>>>  Dear friends,
>>>>
>>>> This could be an excellent tie-in of the two conferences. I'm all for
>>>> it, but will have to leave the final decision to Stefano Serafini who
>>>> is now in Russia for three weeks. He will decide after he gets back to
>>>> Rome. If Stefano is agreeable, then the p2p online conference
>>>> (recorded in english) could link into the physical conference -- which
>>>> will be in italian.
>>>>
>>>> One thing that we have to think about is that p2p discussions tend to
>>>> become overtly political without anybody minding, whereas an organized
>>>> conference like the one planned for Rome is carefully and explicitly
>>>> a-political. This should not be a problem if we are careful. We are
>>>> trying to appeal to the entire political spectrum in Italy.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Nikos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think we should use the italian opportunity and consider the workshop
>>>>> as a
>>>>> online specific 'substream' of the italian conference,
>>>>>
>>>>> this gives us a motivating date, and will mutually enrich both
>>>>> initiatives,
>>>>>
>>>>> Michel
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Nikos Salingaros <salingar at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My friends in Italy are organizing a major urbanism conference (a
>>>>>> physical one in Rome) for the spring, and we could coordinate to have
>>>>>> overlap. The Rome conference is not on p2p yet some p2p themes will be
>>>>>> discussed. Those can end up in the p2p online conference somehow, and
>>>>>> I can ask the presenters to record their talks for the p2p conference
>>>>>> -- anything is possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Michel Bauwens <
>>>>>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not have the necessary contacts myself for an urbanism
>>>>>>> conference,
>>>>>>> so I
>>>>>>> think Nikos proposal is the next best idea ..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for me, I'll have a hyper-busy time from end of august to end of
>>>>>>> november,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so my proposal is, unless people want to go ahead without my input,
>>>>>>> which is
>>>>>>> very fine for me, is that agatino relaunches this proposal on
>>>>>>> December
>>>>>>> 1,
>>>>>>> and we start preparing for a online conference in the spring of 2011
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Nikos Salingaros <salingar at gmail.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cher Michel, gentile Agatino, friends of p2p;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This sounds like a great idea! I'm all for it. But organizing a
>>>>>>>> physical conference is a lot of work, not to mention finding the
>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>> needed to bring everybody together. As I also know from organizing
>>>>>>>> conferences in the past, we usually need a lead-in time of more than
>>>>>>>> one year, after we get the funding to plan things.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If, on the other hand, we have an internet conference, then we can
>>>>>>>> compress everything down to weeks. Taking the idea from the recent
>>>>>>>> interview I gave to Natalia Fentisova, we could record Skype
>>>>>>>> interviews of 30 min each and find a serious site willing to host
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> of them. Then all we need is a nice front end and we have a
>>>>>>>> conference
>>>>>>>> available free to all the world!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We need only very simple things for this: a sponsor website for the
>>>>>>>> conference/group and video links (the videos themselves will be on
>>>>>>>> Vimeo. I don't know if we need to pay. We also need to pay the
>>>>>>>> interviewer for his/her time. I'm sure we can find someone to
>>>>>>>> conduct
>>>>>>>> the interviews. We at p2p could decide on a list of questions. We
>>>>>>>> could, in addition to interviews, have actual talks but I found that
>>>>>>>> the consistency of the Opensimsims interviewees answering the same
>>>>>>>> questions is beneficial.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By the way, my interview on that site is not going to be published,
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> we really need our own venue for publicizing p2p urbanism philosophy
>>>>>>>> and applications. I'm sure we will generate a great variety of
>>>>>>>> ideas,
>>>>>>>> not necessarily in the same line, but that's good. With this
>>>>>>>> framework, we have the option of revisiting the key ideas and having
>>>>>>>> follow-up interviews that develop themes we did not think of at the
>>>>>>>> beginning. That's what Natalia is doing now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once this is done, then I believe it will be easier to find a
>>>>>>>> sponsor
>>>>>>>> for a physical conference to follow, although that is not my
>>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>>> goal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best wishes to all,
>>>>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Michel Bauwens
>>>>>>>> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hi nikos, and friends,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is there any chance to think about a p2p urbanism conference, with
>>>>>>>>> cooperation of the p2p foundation?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was thinking about this with agatino, see below
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>> From: dr. Agatino Rizzo <a.rizzo at qu.edu.qa>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:17 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: new email
>>>>>>>>> To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of course Nikos's involvment could be helpful to deliver the event.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> tino
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Agatino Rizzo (M.Eng., Ph.D.)
>>>>>>>>> assistant professor of urban and regional planning
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Department of Architecture and Urban Planning
>>>>>>>>> College of Engineering - Qatar University
>>>>>>>>> Females Campus,  Room #  C 0219. P.O Box  2713
>>>>>>>>> Doha, State of Qatar
>>>>>>>>> web: http://qu.academia.edu/rizzo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Michel Bauwens
>>>>>>>>> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> we were very close then ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yes, the idea of a conference is a good one, could I broach this
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> Nikos?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I look forward to your blog contribution,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:54 AM, dr. Agatino Rizzo
>>>>>>>>>> <a.rizzo at qu.edu.qa>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Michel,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have spent the last year in Malaysia, precisely in Johor bahru,
>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>> next to Singapore.
>>>>>>>>>>> Lately, before leaving to Qatar, I have organised a Summer School
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> urbanism. To be honest in 2 weeks summer program there was no
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> bring
>>>>>>>>>>> up P2P concepts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nevertheless, with Michail Galankis, I am writing a post, to be
>>>>>>>>>>> published
>>>>>>>>>>> on P2P blog, on Transurbanism, transdisciplinary urbanism. I
>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>> be interesting for the p2p community. perhaps, as Nikos did, I
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> forward
>>>>>>>>>>> first to you for comments and then put into the blog.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In qatar I am going to teach urban planning. Not yet ideas about
>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> research capabilites there. I would like to cultivate further my
>>>>>>>>>>> interest on
>>>>>>>>>>> P2P and transdisciplinary urbanism with practical exircise such
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> Abruzzo.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to organise a joint table, workshop on p2p
>>>>>>>>>>> urbanism
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the near future. Of course from where to get funds is the main
>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we could implement some contents we develop with Michail
>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> tino
>>>>>>>>>>> Agatino Rizzo (M.Eng., Ph.D.)
>>>>>>>>>>> assistant professor of urban and regional planning
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Architecture and Urban Planning
>>>>>>>>>>> College of Engineering - Qatar University
>>>>>>>>>>> Females Campus,  Room #  C 0219. P.O Box  2713
>>>>>>>>>>> Doha, State of Qatar
>>>>>>>>>>> web: http://qu.academia.edu/rizzo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Michel Bauwens
>>>>>>>>>>> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> hi tino,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> what have you been up to before qatar and what are your plans
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> situation there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:55 PM, dr. Agatino Rizzo
>>>>>>>>>>>> <a.rizzo at qu.edu.qa>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> due to my new job at Qatar University, my email has been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> changed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a.rizzo at qu.edu.qa
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please delete the previous agatino at utm.my since I'm not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> planning
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it any longer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, to message me you can still use my yahoo or gmail
>>>>>>>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tino
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agatino Rizzo (M.Eng., Ph.D.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assistant professor of urban and regional planning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Architecture and Urban Planning
>>>>>>>>>>>>> College of Engineering - Qatar University
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Females Campus,  Room #  C 0219. P.O Box  2713
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doha, State of Qatar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> web: http://qu.academia.edu/rizzo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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