[p2p-research] Compromise? Submission to Process = Temporary Peace?

Alex Rollin alex.rollin at gmail.com
Thu Aug 12 15:19:15 CEST 2010


Forgive me for not being clear.

I meant to ask:

Will you submit to the process that you and James agreed to for conflict
mediation on the page:

http://p2pfoundation.net/Wiki_Use_Policy

The process would be moderated by James or someone else you agree to.  Not
me.  But that's all in the process you agreed to already.

I don't need you to step down from the board for this to work.  I just need
someone besides you, on the board or in power, to be involved in policy.  As
a user I need that.  Other users need that too, I think.  That's why sites
that are community sites have conflict resolution policies and procedures.
 Because a community needs them.

Alex

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:

> No Alex, I do not submit to you, which is how I read this.
>
> I propose an alternative, which is that you take a p2p foundation holiday,
> that you wait a few weeks or 2-3 months until the passion has died down,
>
> but in any case, if you do not retrack your stated hostile intent, we will
> still be at a standstill.
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  Does that soind like he is submitting to process?
>>
>> Do you submit Michel?
>>
>> No changes are being made to the wiki install.  I can't know fully what
>> your deman is but I rexommend you dorward it to "process man" James and I
>> agree by whatever he says.
>>
>> Do you submit?
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:48 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>   so my proposal is:
>>
>> 1) a pause in architectural changes
>>
>> 2) if Alex maintains his stated hostile intent, to give him all the
>> support he needs to create a forked project
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:43 PM, j.martin.pedersen <<m.pedersen at lancaster.ac.uk>
>> m.pedersen at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/08/10 13:30, Alex Rollin wrote:
>>> > Let's step into process and quit broadcasting, hey?  Who like process!?
>>>  I
>>> > do I do!
>>>
>>> This is not "process" of the kind that leads to reconcillitation or
>>> resolution. It is one of the central actors in the conflict setting the
>>> scene in a rhetorical/subjective fashion.
>>>
>>> If there is to be a "process", then someone else will have to step in -
>>> someone with at least the grace and skills to act "neutrally", even if
>>> they aren't at heart.
>>>
>>> I am not volunteering - as I have neither the skills, nor overview, nor
>>> inclination.
>>>
>>> -m
>>>
>>> PS: It is getting tiresome to listen to, though!
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