[p2p-research] against human rentals

Samuel Rose samuel.rose at gmail.com
Tue Aug 10 01:26:30 CEST 2010


On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius at gmail.com> wrote:
> Josef Davies-Coates wrote:
>> In most workers co-op members are both paid a wage and receive a
>> dividend (share of profits) relative to how much work they have done.
>
> Profit is not a result of Worker Effort, it is a result of Consumer
> Dependence caused by lack of ownership in the Means of Production.
>

In Josef's example, we can only call "profit" by it's name while the
worker simply accumulates wealth. What often happens is that the
worker, over time, either by need, or choice, needs to redistribute
that "profit" towards procuring food, energy, access, etc. Only a very
privileged few have the luxury of accumulation of profit, in reality.

This may be resolvable by the worker owning the means of production.
But only if all or a huge majority of participants in a system opt
into this arrangement can it work in a self-sustaining way. My only
real problem with the workers own everything argument is simply that
many will choose not to.

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