[p2p-research] New laws in Michigan

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 9 10:07:24 CEST 2010 

hi sepp, the trend is certainly there, at the same time, I'm a regular
attendee of bio markets in france and belgium, where I see a lot of home
made stuff still ...

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Sepp Hasslberger <sepp at lastrega.com> wrote:

> from what I know in Europe, we're still on the "increasing regulations"
> trend, meaning more and more laws are making any kind of small commercial
> activity difficult, especially in the food area. The European Union is a
> creation of people attached to the large corporations and consequently, the
> laws emanated by it favor the large corporation over individuals or small
> businesses.
>
> There is some lip service being paid to protecting SMEs (Small and Medium
> size Enterprises) as it has been recognized that much of the economic
> activity that is going on and that's stable has been going on thanks to
> smaller companies, but the sentiment favoring the large corporations is
> still very strong and consequently, little has been done to liberalize small
> scale or individual production.
>
> Sepp
>
>
>
>  On 05/ago/10, at 04:35, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
>  no rush!
>
> wondering if sepp knows something about the european situation?
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll try for Monday. I'll check to see if other states might have
>> these laws, too.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 3:08 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > super, Sam, I look forward to that article, it's an important
>> development,
>> > not just locally,
>> >
>> > Michel
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Michel,
>> >>
>> >> I will report on it.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Matt!
>> >>
>> >> replies to Alex:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > Laws like these, that require safety protocols, are often designed in
>> >> > such a
>> >> > way as to make home based preparation of food for distribution too
>> >> > costly
>> >> > without cooperation.
>> >>
>> >> Most of the efforts I am personally involved in encourage cooperation.
>> >> I think it's safe to say that regulations or not, cooperation in food
>> >> systems tends to trump non-cooperation. That is, if you are talking
>> >> about participants in food systems cooperating
>> >>
>> >> This set of laws in Michigan is definitely an improvement. Previously
>> >> in Michigan, in order for *anyone* to prepare and sell food, they had
>> >> to do it in a health dept inspected kitchen which could not be in any
>> >> way attached to or near their house. This meant they either had to pay
>> >> to build a new building, or had to pool money with others to create
>> >> "community kitchens".
>> >>
>> >> In this state, there are many people in rural areas that will benefit
>> >> greatly from the passing of this law.
>> >>
>> >> > I worked for a network of kitchens for a bit 10 years ago that
>> allowed
>> >> > folks
>> >> > to access the required cooking equipment, approved and licensed by
>> the
>> >> > county and state, so they could prepare foods for distribution.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > This was good for certain things, but it was not designed in such a
>> way
>> >> > that
>> >> > people could bring, say, 5 or 6 tons of tomatoes for processing.
>> >> > Similar laws regarding milk, allowing the sale of raw milk, were
>> passed
>> >> > in
>> >> > California recently.  This has been very good for cheese making, but
>> >> > does
>> >> > not actually enable cheese makers to sell the cheese.  Only farmers
>> to
>> >> > sell
>> >> > the milk.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yes, even the existing laws that Matt emailed to the list will not
>> >> really afford high volume processing. In the areas that i work in, I
>> >> avoid high volume growing and processing and work instead to create or
>> >> fill high paying niches that high volume producers and processors
>> >> would overlook. This is the biggest area of growth, with no
>> >> competition from large producers usually, and participants can operate
>> >> without directly competing with each other. Also, there are many
>> >> income streams that can be had from the byproducts of food production.
>> >> The goal is to help participants realize multiple ways of either
>> >> generating revenue, or meeting needs in a way that sustains their
>> >> operations (usually involves collaboration and cooperation).
>> >>
>> >> > A
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Matt <matt at digiblade.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yeah, I figured Sam would be especially pleased. Let’s hope this is
>> the
>> >> >> beginning of a national trend.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> From: Michel Bauwens [mailto:michelsub2004 at gmail.com]
>> >> >> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:58 PM
>> >> >> To: p2p research network
>> >> >> Cc: Matt; Samuel Rose; Steve Bosserman
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [p2p-research] New laws in Michigan
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> hi Matt, this is superb news, and I would welcome any report on it
>> for
>> >> >> our
>> >> >> blog ...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Matt <matt at digiblade.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Michigan's newest laws relating to the sale of home grown foods. I
>> >> >> haven't
>> >> >> had time to keep up with it, but my fellow growers there seem to be
>> >> >> very
>> >> >> happy with it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This afternoon, Gov. Jennifer Granholm is to sign into law two
>> cottage
>> >> >> food
>> >> >> operation bills that will allow individuals to make or package
>> certain
>> >> >> foods
>> >> >> in their kitchens instead of having to use a commercial food
>> operation
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> they do now.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Baked goods, jam and jellies, candy, vinegar, dried fruit, herbs and
>> >> >> mixes
>> >> >> made in your kitchen could all be sold publicly provided they are
>> >> >> properly
>> >> >> labeled to reflect that they are homemade and identify all
>> ingredients
>> >> >> under
>> >> >> guidelines provided by the state.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The new measures will allow people to sell their goods publicly at
>> >> >> farmers
>> >> >> markets, roadside stands, county fairs, flea markets and festivals
>> >> >> without
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> state Department of Agriculture license. An individual residence
>> could
>> >> >> make
>> >> >> up to $15,000 gross annually from such sales, which could help some
>> >> >> families
>> >> >> with good bakers and cooks make ends meet or spur the creation of
>> >> >> entrepreneurs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Matt
>> >> >>
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