[p2p-research] What Networks Are (and What They Are Not) A Response to Galloway’s Position Paper
Alex Rollin
alex.rollin at gmail.com
Sat Aug 7 10:54:37 CEST 2010
I think you might want to read Benkler, again? Most of this is outlined
there.
I would say that the reference article is a bit inflammatory and publicity
seeking, as a sort of "wouldn't you look silly if you thought networks were
cool and safe" kind of way.
A
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
> Tom,
>
> this is very enlightening and I wonder if you any more systematic writings
> on this, or would we willing to spend some time in developing them?
>
> it seems to me that this would be a very good set of technical principles
> that would guarantee a tendency towards the non-hierarchical,
>
> in other words, are there others than the one you have just described, and
> can we think about offering a systematic overview of such network
> principles?
>
> Michel
>
> On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Tom Rawlings <tom at fluffylogic.net> wrote:
>
>> I've added this to the blog to come later this month...
>>
>> In Alexander R. Galloway; Exploring New Configurations of Network
>> Politics, he suggests that the fascinations with networks that has entered
>> into so much critical thinking is not all it’s claimed. That networks, by
>> definition are asymmetric constructs and those using them as tool of
>> understanding are failing to grasp this:
>>
>> "It is common to talk about networks in terms of equality, that networks
>> bring a sense of evenhandedness to affairs. It is common to say that
>> networks consist of relationships between peers, and that networks
>> standardize and homogenize these relationships. It is not important to say
>> that such characterizations are false, but rather to suggest that they
>> obscure the reality of the situation. Networks only exist in situations of
>> asymmetry or incongruity. If not no network would be necessary– symmetrical
>> pairs can “communicate,” but asymmetrical pairs must “network.” So in
>> addressing the question “What can a network do?” it is important to look at
>> what it means to be in a relationship of asymmetry, to be in a relationship
>> of inequality, or a relationship of antagonism."
>>
>> I’ve got to take issue with his initial definitions here: Networks are
>> constructions of two basic units – nodes and links. The number of nodes and
>> links is a very different matter to any power accrued by the node/s or
>> bandwidth of the link/s. Put simply Galloway is seeing power-relations in
>> shadows and missing ones in plain sight. Being a Peers in a network mean
>> having the ability to form (and break) links – again it is not a reading of
>> the links power/bandwidth. If one node has many links, then it may lead us
>> to conclude that it is a more powerful node than others, yet if that node is
>> not a peer – i.e. if others can form links with it, but it cannot choose to
>> deny them – then it’s power is illusory. The same applies where two nodes
>> are talking – what is to say they are a symmetrical pair? Nothing. In
>> short, networks create tendencies – if you can create links, then the
>> tendency is towards a less hierarchical structure.
>>
>> We also see Galloway’s misinterpretation of tendencies as absolutes in his
>> discussion of the Robustness Principe:
>>
>> "The so-called “Robustness Principle,” which comes from RFC 761 on the
>> transmission control protocol (TCP), one of the most important political
>> principles of distributed networks, is stated as follows: “Be conservative
>> in what you do, be liberal in what you accept from others.” This is called
>> the Robustness Principle because if a technical system is liberal in what it
>> accepts and conservative in what it does the technical system will be more
>> robust over time. (But of course wouldn’t it ultimately make more sense to
>> relabel this the Imperial Principle? Or even the Neoliberal Principle?) This
>> indicates a second virtue of protocol: totality. As the Robustness Principle
>> states, one must accept everything, no matter what source, sender, or
>> destination."
>>
>> The Robustness Principle is a tendency and not a command. It does not
>> force a node to accept everything. Each node has the will have the capacity
>> to interpret the principle differently – not as they are ordered to by any
>> protocol. Thus the parameters of operation are set by via each node,
>> resulting is a a tendency towards non-hierarchical structures. Protocols
>> are methods of intercommunication – they are not structures of totality –
>> for example, a node can use them to communicate with other nodes, while
>> adhering to different protocols within its own communication. Protocols are
>> structures of common agreement underpinned with practical agreement – nodes
>> who struggle to use a protocol will disengage from it, so reducing it’s use.
>> Whereas nodes that are conversant with a node will be taken up and used, so
>> growing the network. As such the action of the node is needed to make a
>> protocol work – and as such it has a tendency towards a democratic method of
>> operation.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Tomas
>>
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