[p2p-research] against human rentals

[Michel Bauwens]

hi patrick,

I'm assuming that since worker's own the coop, they are not in a wage
relation to it, but share collectively in its proceeds, and are getting
'paid' in that new way,

as opposed to a coop hiring external workers for example

under my own model of stakeholdership, their could be a technique through
which the coop clients could also buy in their ownership/participation in
the coop; and the coop's board would additionally invite 'common good' reps
such as the people from the community in which they operate

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michel Bauwens wrote:
> > ideally, a coop should make all participants
> > cooperators, and not hire labour
>
> Assume for the moment I agree workers
> need equal ownership.
>
>
> Some questions:
>
> 1.) If you will not allow the cooperative to
>  pay the workers, then why would they work?
>
> 2.) How will the workers pay for things like
> food and shelter if they are not being paid?
>
> 3.) What benefit is there for a member to
> declare himself a worker as opposed to
> being a consumer only, who can just be lazy?
> In other words, what is the difference, or
> is there any difference in 'compensation'
> if I do work for the cooperative or if I stay
> home and lay in the sun?  If there is a
> difference, then *how* is it different from
> what is now called 'wage'.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Patrick
>
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