[p2p-research] Case for economic democracy and against human rentals

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Fri Aug 6 05:29:51 CEST 2010


thanks for both Mike!!

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Mike Leung <leungms at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michel,
>
> I'll write an intro article on human rentals and the labor theory of
> property for your blog. August 20-30 works for my schedule. I'm also
> working on another into abolish human rentals video, which I'd like
> for my site as well.
>
> The Labor Theory of Property can be summarized easily: Let the party
> that appropriates property be the party responsible for its creation.
> Only people (labor) can bear responsibility unlike thinks such as
> machinery, money, land, raw material, etc. Hence the workers should
> appropriate anything produced as a result of their labor. It follows
> that the workers should then acquire any profit or loss resulting from
> the sale of the goods they appropriated. That is the basis for worker
> ownership of all businesses.
>
> If the workers are financially responsible for their business they
> should determine in how it operates. In addition, basic democratic
> theory allows positive governing control (the ability to compel
> action) only with the consent of the governed. Both arguments support
> democratic workplaces.
>
> I'll have an expanded version for your blog.
>
> Mike :)
> _____________________________________________
> Abolish Human Rentals: Support Worker Cooperatives
> http://www.abolishhumanrentals.org/
>
> Worker Cooperative Credit Union Organizing Group (Unchartered)
> http://workercoopfcu.org/
>
>
>
>  On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > I'll present the credit coop tomorrow already on the blog (done)
> >
> > but, I would appreciate a series on human rentals, where the videos can
> be
> > embedded as extra's
> >
> > and a simpler explanation of the labor theory of property,
> >
> > there's no rush, but I would appreciate material between august 20 and 30
> in
> > particular,
> >
> >
> > Michel
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Nicholas Roberts
> > <nicholas at themediasociety.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> hey michel
> >>
> >> we've experimented with some video of Mike's Abolish Human
> Rentals/Worker
> >> Cooperative Credit Union (intersection)
> >> http://permaculture.tv/mike-leung-worker-cooperative-credit-union/
> >> http://vimeo.com/12901862
> >> http://vimeo.com/12906472
> >> http://vimeo.com/12909846
> >>
> >> guess you and mike could could up a decent post, or perhaps a series
> >>
> >> cheers
> >> -N
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> hi mike,
> >>>
> >>> I hope you don't mind my cc'ing in the community, so they also know
> about
> >>> your projects
> >>>
> >>> yes I discovered the human rentals site thanks to nicholas, and then
> >>> re-discovered ellerman again thanks to him and your work ...
> >>>
> >>> would you like to offer some blogpost on human rentals for our blog
> >>>
> >>> I would also love a piece on the labor theory of property, but I find
> >>> david's piece to difficult, so I need something more basic, (I already
> asked
> >>> Kevin Carson to look into it as well)
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Mike Leung <leungms at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Michel,
> >>>>
> >>>> Nicholas Roberts just tipped me off about your site and the case for
> >>>> economic democracy post:
> >>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Case_for_Economic_Democracy
> >>>>
> >>>> You may also be interested in the following website which is
> >>>> highlighting those arguments.
> >>>> http://www.abolishhumanrentals.org/
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike Leung :)
> >>>> _____________________________________________
> >>>> Abolish Human Rentals: Support Worker Cooperatives
> >>>> http://www.abolishhumanrentals.org/
> >>>>
> >>>> Worker Cooperative Credit Union Organizing Group (Unchartered)
> >>>> http://workercoopfcu.org/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
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