[p2p-research] semantic wiki extension

[Michel Bauwens]

James just proposed a process to change/adapt the foundation's statutes, so
this discussion could be part of that,

I also agree with a membership program and a democratic structure,

Michel

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've outlined somethings for the board and a committee at:
> http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Foundation_Board_of_Directors
>
> I've been pretty taken with the idea that there ought be a "membership
> program" for the foundation that cultivates folks who want to serve on the
> committee and who then might be members of the board.
>
> A
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm not following this in detail, and I often disagree with patrick's
>> basic premises,
>>
>> however, I think that developing a set of rights for online users is a
>> really very important,
>>
>> is this something some people could working on, using a wiki project
>> document?
>>
>> once there is a consensus, we would then discuss how to apply it as a
>> governance model for the p2p-f ecology?
>>
>> Michel
>>
>>   On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Samuel Rose wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Can you tell me why you are not a member of
>>> > http://CommunityWiki.org/en/CommunityWikiAssemblyMemberList<http://communitywiki.org/en/CommunityWikiAssemblyMemberList> were you
>>> > denied access to joining that?
>>>
>>> I did not apply because I did not want to become part of what I
>>> consider a wrong direction.
>>>
>>> I felt isolated and confused because this kind of hierarchy seems
>>> wrong to me and yet, since I have no ownership in the server hosting
>>> that wiki, I had no real property rights to assert my disdain.
>>>
>>> But it is even more complicated than that because current "social
>>> software" does not take this type of secession into consideration, and
>>> so there would be no way of exerting such property rights without
>>> becoming fully disconnected from the original community -- and such
>>> disconnection would be social suicide since it would then be a stark
>>> either/or choice instead of allowing incremental dissent.
>>>
>>> So there is much work to be done in rethinking and reimplementing how
>>> we organize before this problem can be realistically addressed.
>>>
>>> I outlined my ideas about how to approach some of this complexity at
>>> http://CommunityWiki.org/en/PlainTextWiki<http://communitywiki.org/en/PlainTextWiki>:
>>>
>>>
>>> ==Multiuser Concerns
>>> * Authors own their own comments outside of the DefinitionArea.
>>> * All users may work immediately and all changes are stored, but are
>>> actually just votes.
>>> * SPAM is quickly voted away (hidden by default for other users) when
>>> too many early viewers find it offensive enough to hide or reject.
>>> This could be a problem too?
>>> * Changes to Definitions or to the HTML/CSS interface appear immediate
>>> and permanent to the editor, but are actually just a vote change those
>>> things.
>>> * The VoteWeight of a user is increased whenever that user makes a
>>> change that is accepted by the community.
>>> * User implicitly vote for and against others by accepting, hiding or
>>> rejecting comments and changes.
>>> * SoftSecurity could be used to track VoteWeight.
>>>
>>> ==Transform lists may also be adjusted by a mixture of community and
>>> private NameSpaces.
>>>
>>> * INPUT files may be edited, but 'Comments' are usually not stored
>>> within the INPUT file itself.
>>> * Comments are usually metadata that is stored in a DataBase or in
>>> companion files.
>>> * The CommunityNamespace is used when rendering the INPUT file.
>>> * The User's PrivateNamespace is used for his digitally signed Comments.
>>> * The CommunityNamespace includes only local hosted PageNames until
>>> some Users begin to vote.
>>> * Voting occurs when a User makes part of his PrivateNamespace
>>> 'available' for the wiki software to read.
>>> * The CommunityNamespace is thus 'weighted' by implicit suggestions
>>> from Users to do things the way they like it. When enough Users decide
>>> the word 'wiki' should link to MeatBall instead of WikiPedia, pages
>>> are then rendered with links that point to the new preference.
>>> * Maybe the StyleSheet could be a mix of Users preferences? Maybe too
>>> crazy. A limited feature subset might work.
>>>
>>> ==Voting
>>>
>>> * Any User may work immediately and all changes are stored, and appear
>>> to be 'done' to the editor, but are actually just votes for those
>>> changes to be made if the community agrees (but what percentage?).
>>>
>>> * SPAM and SPAMMERS are quickly voted away (hidden by default for
>>> other users) when too many early viewers find them offensive enough to
>>> hide or reject. This could be a problem too.
>>>
>>> * The VoteWeight of a user is increased whenever that user makes a
>>> change that is accepted by the community.
>>>
>>> * Users implicitly vote for and against others by accepting, hiding or
>>> rejecting comments and changes.
>>>
>>> * Identity may be optionally 'secured' through password if a User
>>> decides to stay a while.
>>>
>>> * Sub-communities need to be able to "carve out" their own space
>>> without annoying others with what the old-timers may consider SPAM.
>>> SPAM is subjective pollution?
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