[p2p-research] Is peer production a real mode of production?

[Michel Bauwens]

hi kevin,

with half-wave I mean the following

a kondratieff wave has a upswing wave of 25-30 years marked by high growth
and productive investement

half-way there is a crisis in the dominant country (73 oil crisis)

set's off the second half-wave of low growth and speculative investment and
financialization

it's an open question, but I think there is room for a wave of investment
around green etc ...

but it is conditioned on the financial deleveraging and structural reform of
the previous wave, and that is NOT happening (I've heard it is similar not
to 1929, but to 1873, as a scenario)

Michel

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Kevin Carson <
free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7/28/10, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > what I'm saying 'exactly', is that peer production to evolve from the
> > current seed form to full modality, needs to be able to socially
> reproduce
> > itself ..
> >
> > I disagree with dmytri that it is only a distribution format, I do think
> > peer production 'produces', but, it can not a present socially reproduce
> > itself outside of capitalism,
> >
> > doing that requires a convincing linkage between its immaterial and
> material
> > aspects,
> >
> > as for kondratieff, I think that a half-wave is a possibility, but not
> > necessarily a successfull one,
>
> What do you mean by a half-wave:  a smaller wave of capital
> investment, in monetary terms, than those of the past?
>
> I agree that peer production needs to reproduce itself, but I question
> whether it can do so in a way that's compatible with Kondratiev waves
> or Gordon's social structures of accumulation, because new
> technologies have the novel effect of making large quantities of
> capital superfluous in ways that suggest future economic models won't
> serve as large-scale investment sinks.
>
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