[p2p-research] conference on p2p urbanism
Michel Bauwens
michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Tue Aug 3 16:09:37 CEST 2010
thanks Nikos, I'm all for keeping the focus on 'urbanism',
Michel
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Nikos Salingaros <salingar at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> This could be an excellent tie-in of the two conferences. I'm all for
> it, but will have to leave the final decision to Stefano Serafini who
> is now in Russia for three weeks. He will decide after he gets back to
> Rome. If Stefano is agreeable, then the p2p online conference
> (recorded in english) could link into the physical conference -- which
> will be in italian.
>
> One thing that we have to think about is that p2p discussions tend to
> become overtly political without anybody minding, whereas an organized
> conference like the one planned for Rome is carefully and explicitly
> a-political. This should not be a problem if we are careful. We are
> trying to appeal to the entire political spectrum in Italy.
>
> Best wishes,
> Nikos
>
>
> > I think we should use the italian opportunity and consider the workshop
> as a
> > online specific 'substream' of the italian conference,
> >
> > this gives us a motivating date, and will mutually enrich both
> initiatives,
> >
> > Michel
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Nikos Salingaros <salingar at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear friends,
> >>
> >>
> >> My friends in Italy are organizing a major urbanism conference (a
> >> physical one in Rome) for the spring, and we could coordinate to have
> >> overlap. The Rome conference is not on p2p yet some p2p themes will be
> >> discussed. Those can end up in the p2p online conference somehow, and
> >> I can ask the presenters to record their talks for the p2p conference
> >> -- anything is possible.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >> Nikos
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > I do not have the necessary contacts myself for an urbanism
> conference,
> >> > so I
> >> > think Nikos proposal is the next best idea ..
> >> >
> >> > for me, I'll have a hyper-busy time from end of august to end of
> >> > november,
> >> >
> >> > so my proposal is, unless people want to go ahead without my input,
> >> > which is
> >> > very fine for me, is that agatino relaunches this proposal on December
> >> > 1,
> >> > and we start preparing for a online conference in the spring of 2011 ?
> >> >
> >> > Michel
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Nikos Salingaros <salingar at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Cher Michel, gentile Agatino, friends of p2p;
> >> >>
> >> >> This sounds like a great idea! I'm all for it. But organizing a
> >> >> physical conference is a lot of work, not to mention finding the
> money
> >> >> needed to bring everybody together. As I also know from organizing
> >> >> conferences in the past, we usually need a lead-in time of more than
> >> >> one year, after we get the funding to plan things.
> >> >>
> >> >> If, on the other hand, we have an internet conference, then we can
> >> >> compress everything down to weeks. Taking the idea from the recent
> >> >> interview I gave to Natalia Fentisova, we could record Skype
> >> >> interviews of 30 min each and find a serious site willing to host all
> >> >> of them. Then all we need is a nice front end and we have a
> conference
> >> >> available free to all the world!
> >> >>
> >> >> We need only very simple things for this: a sponsor website for the
> >> >> conference/group and video links (the videos themselves will be on
> >> >> Vimeo. I don't know if we need to pay. We also need to pay the
> >> >> interviewer for his/her time. I'm sure we can find someone to conduct
> >> >> the interviews. We at p2p could decide on a list of questions. We
> >> >> could, in addition to interviews, have actual talks but I found that
> >> >> the consistency of the Opensimsims interviewees answering the same
> >> >> questions is beneficial.
> >> >>
> >> >> By the way, my interview on that site is not going to be published,
> so
> >> >> we really need our own venue for publicizing p2p urbanism philosophy
> >> >> and applications. I'm sure we will generate a great variety of ideas,
> >> >> not necessarily in the same line, but that's good. With this
> >> >> framework, we have the option of revisiting the key ideas and having
> >> >> follow-up interviews that develop themes we did not think of at the
> >> >> beginning. That's what Natalia is doing now.
> >> >>
> >> >> Once this is done, then I believe it will be easier to find a sponsor
> >> >> for a physical conference to follow, although that is not my original
> >> >> goal.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best wishes to all,
> >> >> Nikos
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Michel Bauwens
> >> >> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > hi nikos, and friends,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > is there any chance to think about a p2p urbanism conference, with
> >> >> > cooperation of the p2p foundation?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I was thinking about this with agatino, see below
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> >> > From: dr. Agatino Rizzo <a.rizzo at qu.edu.qa>
> >> >> > Date: Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:17 PM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: new email
> >> >> > To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > of course Nikos's involvment could be helpful to deliver the event.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > tino
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Agatino Rizzo (M.Eng., Ph.D.)
> >> >> > assistant professor of urban and regional planning
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Department of Architecture and Urban Planning
> >> >> > College of Engineering - Qatar University
> >> >> > Females Campus, Room # C 0219. P.O Box 2713
> >> >> > Doha, State of Qatar
> >> >> > web: http://qu.academia.edu/rizzo
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Michel Bauwens
> >> >> > <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> we were very close then ...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> yes, the idea of a conference is a good one, could I broach this
> >> >> >> with
> >> >> >> Nikos?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I look forward to your blog contribution,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Michel
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:54 AM, dr. Agatino Rizzo
> >> >> >> <a.rizzo at qu.edu.qa>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Hi Michel,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I have spent the last year in Malaysia, precisely in Johor bahru,
> >> >> >>> just
> >> >> >>> next to Singapore.
> >> >> >>> Lately, before leaving to Qatar, I have organised a Summer School
> >> >> >>> on
> >> >> >>> urbanism. To be honest in 2 weeks summer program there was no
> time
> >> >> >>> to
> >> >> >>> bring
> >> >> >>> up P2P concepts.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Nevertheless, with Michail Galankis, I am writing a post, to be
> >> >> >>> published
> >> >> >>> on P2P blog, on Transurbanism, transdisciplinary urbanism. I
> think
> >> >> >>> it
> >> >> >>> could
> >> >> >>> be interesting for the p2p community. perhaps, as Nikos did, I
> will
> >> >> >>> forward
> >> >> >>> first to you for comments and then put into the blog.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> In qatar I am going to teach urban planning. Not yet ideas about
> my
> >> >> >>> research capabilites there. I would like to cultivate further my
> >> >> >>> interest on
> >> >> >>> P2P and transdisciplinary urbanism with practical exircise such
> as
> >> >> >>> for
> >> >> >>> Abruzzo.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> It would be nice to organise a joint table, workshop on p2p
> >> >> >>> urbanism
> >> >> >>> in
> >> >> >>> the near future. Of course from where to get funds is the main
> >> >> >>> problem.
> >> >> >>> Maybe we could implement some contents we develop with Michail
> too.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Best regards
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> tino
> >> >> >>> Agatino Rizzo (M.Eng., Ph.D.)
> >> >> >>> assistant professor of urban and regional planning
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Department of Architecture and Urban Planning
> >> >> >>> College of Engineering - Qatar University
> >> >> >>> Females Campus, Room # C 0219. P.O Box 2713
> >> >> >>> Doha, State of Qatar
> >> >> >>> web: http://qu.academia.edu/rizzo
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Michel Bauwens
> >> >> >>> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> hi tino,
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> what have you been up to before qatar and what are your plans
> and
> >> >> >>>> situation there?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Michel
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:55 PM, dr. Agatino Rizzo
> >> >> >>>> <a.rizzo at qu.edu.qa>
> >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Dear All,
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> due to my new job at Qatar University, my email has been
> changed
> >> >> >>>>> to
> >> >> >>>>> a.rizzo at qu.edu.qa
> >> >> >>>>> Please delete the previous agatino at utm.my since I'm not
> planning
> >> >> >>>>> to
> >> >> >>>>> use
> >> >> >>>>> it any longer.
> >> >> >>>>> Of course, to message me you can still use my yahoo or gmail
> >> >> >>>>> account.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Best Regards,
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> tino
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Agatino Rizzo (M.Eng., Ph.D.)
> >> >> >>>>> assistant professor of urban and regional planning
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Department of Architecture and Urban Planning
> >> >> >>>>> College of Engineering - Qatar University
> >> >> >>>>> Females Campus, Room # C 0219. P.O Box 2713
> >> >> >>>>> Doha, State of Qatar
> >> >> >>>>> web: http://qu.academia.edu/rizzo
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> --
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> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
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> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
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> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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