[p2p-research] conference on p2p urbanism

Tue Aug 3 07:09:43 CEST 2010

what I propose then is an initial round whereby agatino creates a google doc
page to formulate the proposal, amended by nikos and any others here.

after that's done, we announce the project on our blog for a second round,

and after that we make some of the decisions to make the project operational

sounds okay?

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Nikos Salingaros <salingar at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> Michel has a very good idea. No, it's not necessary to have Michel
> involved in the preliminary development of this project, though he is
> essential in formulating the end product.
>
> I suggest that we announce the general idea early so that people begin
> to think about it and formulate ideas, specific questions, topics to
> be covered, etc. Someone could volunteer to gather emails of ideas
> (not me -- how about Agatino?). One article on the p2p blog should be
> enough to get things rolling in the p2p community. Then, we may draw
> in other people from the outside.
>
> My friends in Italy are organizing a major urbanism conference (a
> physical one in Rome) for the spring, and we could coordinate to have
> overlap. The Rome conference is not on p2p yet some p2p themes will be
> discussed. Those can end up in the p2p online conference somehow, and
> I can ask the presenters to record their talks for the p2p conference
> -- anything is possible.
>
> Best wishes,
> Nikos
>
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I do not have the necessary contacts myself for an urbanism conference,
> so I
> > think Nikos proposal is the next best idea ..
> >
> > for me, I'll have a hyper-busy time from end of august to end of
> november,
> >
> > so my proposal is, unless people want to go ahead without my input, which
> is
> > very fine for me, is that agatino relaunches this proposal on December 1,
> > and we start preparing for a online conference in the spring of 2011 ?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Nikos Salingaros <salingar at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Cher Michel, gentile Agatino, friends of p2p;
> >>
> >> This sounds like a great idea! I'm all for it. But organizing a
> >> physical conference is a lot of work, not to mention finding the money
> >> needed to bring everybody together. As I also know from organizing
> >> conferences in the past, we usually need a lead-in time of more than
> >> one year, after we get the funding to plan things.
> >>
> >> If, on the other hand, we have an internet conference, then we can
> >> compress everything down to weeks. Taking the idea from the recent
> >> interview I gave to Natalia Fentisova, we could record Skype
> >> interviews of 30 min each and find a serious site willing to host all
> >> of them. Then all we need is a nice front end and we have a conference
> >> available free to all the world!
> >>
> >> We need only very simple things for this: a sponsor website for the
> >> conference/group and video links (the videos themselves will be on
> >> Vimeo. I don't know if we need to pay. We also need to pay the
> >> interviewer for his/her time. I'm sure we can find someone to conduct
> >> the interviews. We at p2p could decide on a list of questions. We
> >> could, in addition to interviews, have actual talks but I found that
> >> the consistency of the Opensimsims interviewees answering the same
> >> questions is beneficial.
> >>
> >> By the way, my interview on that site is not going to be published, so
> >> we really need our own venue for publicizing p2p urbanism philosophy
> >> and applications. I'm sure we will generate a great variety of ideas,
> >> not necessarily in the same line, but that's good. With this
> >> framework, we have the option of revisiting the key ideas and having
> >> follow-up interviews that develop themes we did not think of at the
> >> beginning. That's what Natalia is doing now.
> >>
> >> Once this is done, then I believe it will be easier to find a sponsor
> >> for a physical conference to follow, although that is not my original
> >> goal.
> >>
> >> Best wishes to all,
> >> Nikos
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Michel Bauwens <
> michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > hi nikos, and friends,
> >> >
> >> > is there any chance to think about a p2p urbanism conference, with
> >> > cooperation of the p2p foundation?
> >> >
> >> > I was thinking about this with agatino, see below
> >> >
> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> > From: dr. Agatino Rizzo <a.rizzo at qu.edu.qa>
> >> > Date: Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:17 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: new email
> >> > To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > of course Nikos's involvment could be helpful to deliver the event.
> >> >
> >> > tino
> >> >
> >> > Agatino Rizzo (M.Eng., Ph.D.)
> >> > assistant professor of urban and regional planning
> >> >
> >> > Department of Architecture and Urban Planning
> >> > College of Engineering - Qatar University
> >> > Females Campus,  Room #  C 0219. P.O Box  2713
> >> > Doha, State of Qatar
> >> > web: http://qu.academia.edu/rizzo
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Michel Bauwens <
> michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> we were very close then ...
> >> >>
> >> >> yes, the idea of a conference is a good one, could I broach this with
> >> >> Nikos?
> >> >>
> >> >> I look forward to your blog contribution,
> >> >>
> >> >> Michel
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:54 AM, dr. Agatino Rizzo <
> a.rizzo at qu.edu.qa>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi Michel,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I have spent the last year in Malaysia, precisely in Johor bahru,
> just
> >> >>> next to Singapore.
> >> >>> Lately, before leaving to Qatar, I have organised a Summer School on
> >> >>> urbanism. To be honest in 2 weeks summer program there was no time
> to
> >> >>> bring
> >> >>> up P2P concepts.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Nevertheless, with Michail Galankis, I am writing a post, to be
> >> >>> published
> >> >>> on P2P blog, on Transurbanism, transdisciplinary urbanism. I think
> it
> >> >>> could
> >> >>> be interesting for the p2p community. perhaps, as Nikos did, I will
> >> >>> forward
> >> >>> first to you for comments and then put into the blog.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> In qatar I am going to teach urban planning. Not yet ideas about my
> >> >>> research capabilites there. I would like to cultivate further my
> >> >>> interest on
> >> >>> P2P and transdisciplinary urbanism with practical exircise such as
> for
> >> >>> Abruzzo.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It would be nice to organise a joint table, workshop on p2p urbanism
> >> >>> in
> >> >>> the near future. Of course from where to get funds is the main
> >> >>> problem.
> >> >>> Maybe we could implement some contents we develop with Michail too.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Best regards
> >> >>>
> >> >>> tino
> >> >>> Agatino Rizzo (M.Eng., Ph.D.)
> >> >>> assistant professor of urban and regional planning
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Department of Architecture and Urban Planning
> >> >>> College of Engineering - Qatar University
> >> >>> Females Campus,  Room #  C 0219. P.O Box  2713
> >> >>> Doha, State of Qatar
> >> >>> web: http://qu.academia.edu/rizzo
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Michel Bauwens
> >> >>> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> hi tino,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> what have you been up to before qatar and what are your plans and
> >> >>>> situation there?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Michel
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:55 PM, dr. Agatino Rizzo
> >> >>>> <a.rizzo at qu.edu.qa>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Dear All,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> due to my new job at Qatar University, my email has been changed
> to
> >> >>>>> a.rizzo at qu.edu.qa
> >> >>>>> Please delete the previous agatino at utm.my since I'm not planning
> to
> >> >>>>> use
> >> >>>>> it any longer.
> >> >>>>> Of course, to message me you can still use my yahoo or gmail
> >> >>>>> account.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Best Regards,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> tino
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Agatino Rizzo (M.Eng., Ph.D.)
> >> >>>>> assistant professor of urban and regional planning
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Department of Architecture and Urban Planning
> >> >>>>> College of Engineering - Qatar University
> >> >>>>> Females Campus,  Room #  C 0219. P.O Box  2713
> >> >>>>> Doha, State of Qatar
> >> >>>>> web: http://qu.academia.edu/rizzo
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
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> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >
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> >> >
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> >> >
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