[p2p-research] Is peer production a real mode of production?

[Michel Bauwens]

unless we have a overwhelmingly abundant physical economy (or culture, as in
tribal times), we cannot have pure p2p dynamics for the whole of our lives,
it will always be part of the relational mix,

however, this does not mean that it cannot be the core or dominant means of
value creation, since physical production is predicated on immaterial
cooperation of interconnected minds using digital networks,

arduino is the test case here, of an open and shared design commons used for
physical production

Michel

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.monson at gmail.com> wrote:

> in reply to this thread :
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> http://listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch_listcultures.org/2010-July/009670.html
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> <http://listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch_listcultures.org/2010-July/009670.html>(
> cc: small, but open, two persons list )
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>  On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> what I'm saying 'exactly', is that peer production to evolve from the
>> current seed form to full modality, needs to be able to socially reproduce
>> itself ..
>>
>> I disagree with dmytri that it is only a distribution format, I do think
>> peer production 'produces', but, it can not a present socially reproduce
>> itself outside of capitalism,
>>
>
> my current view :
>
> unless we buy out ( such as in venture communism ) or have people donating
> the production and use value infrastructure from the current capitalist
> economy into a "communal sharing / p2p economy",
>
> and have such p2p economy function while enabling it ( optionally, but not
> necessarily ) to sell some of its production to the capitalist (non-)market
> as to re-invest such money in buying over and adding into the p2p economy a
> greater amount of production and living infrastructures and land.
>
> I do not see a "pure" p2p relational dynamics as long as some resources
> from other types of economics/Relational dynamics are needed,
>
> but I do imagine solutions to enable anyone to self define the type of
> relational dynamics they want to participate in, and the ways in which
> different types of relational dynamics can enable transfers of resources
> from the one or the other ( and the conditions of such transfer of resources
> )
>
>


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