[p2p-research] Would like to start a dialouge with you and seek some input

Mon Apr 26 08:34:01 CEST 2010

thanks a lot Richard, we can't wait for more,

Michel

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Richard Schulte <
Richard.J.Schulte at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will definitely be reporting back here, as things develop.  We are still
> at a planning stage and are forming alliances, helping to build a common
> understanding and bolster eachothers knowledge of the various topics
> associated w/ forming cooperative economies through collective, grassroots
> action.  Folks are very excited as, despite there being a lot of awesome
> stuff going on re Evergreen, City Land Bank, and other exciting
> sustainability/local economy projects, many of these projects are somewhat
> siloed and inaccessible to the greater community.
>
> This is why we are setting out under the principle of 'make a job' instead
> of 'take a job', as folks are quickly realizing that economic transition,
> relocaliation and re-prioritization will vastly rely on the momentum of our
> own volition, and by networking our efforts we only stand to benefit and
> prosper.  Our intent is to start small, with low-startup cost home-based
> businesses, facilitating the formation of housing cooperatives, purchasing
> cooperatives and other simple ventures.  Eventually, we hope to scale up
> into more capital intensive ventures involving more complex equipment,
> storefronts, or land as we are able to create pathways of investment, on our
> terms, for legitimate local financiers and microlenders.  There is
> definitely some strong interest in micro-manufacturing, as well as folks
> with varied experience to back it up (milling, CNC, lathework, tool and die,
> sheet metal, etc.), and possible alliances w/ union locals who are
> interested in finding innovative ways to help to finance getting their
> workers off the bench.
>
> As we will be facilitating the growth of both physical and digital commons
> over the course of this project, we will be aggregating information,
> findings, and possibly discussions and decisions as they are made, and will
> be making them available.  We are also in talks with folks throughout the
> region about helping to facilitate the same types of projects elsewhere.
>
> Report backs soon from the 'front lines',
>
> Richard
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  I would really happy to seen your contributions here Richard, we need
>> input from grassroots people who can report on what is happening,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>>   On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Kevin Carson <
>> free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  > I am very impressed by your ideas and how you take some crucial
>>> economic
>>> > concepts to the next level, create confluences of ideas, and are
>>> readily
>>> > finding avenues to apply them.  I found myself following similar
>>> channels
>>> > and happened upon your stuff via OSE/Marcin a few years back.  Has
>>> helped me
>>> > to find some wonderful direction in thought and action.
>>>
>>> Nice to hear from you, Richard.  Thanks for the kind words.  I can't
>>> write a line of code and my "shop skills" consist of occasionally
>>> being able to drive a nail in straight, but the one thing I think I'm
>>> good at is finding and correlating patterns in ideas/events.
>>>
>>> > I live in Cleveland and enjoyed reading the recent article @p2p
>>> foundation
>>> > blog (i also enjoy your posts on various list-serves, and would respond
>>> more
>>> > often if I had the time).  I'm glad we are on your radar.  Evergreen is
>>> a
>>> > complex thing that I would like to talk to you about, as they are not
>>> > everything that they seem, and the Mondragon model is not the best
>>> approach
>>> > to organizing cooperatives, i would argue.  I work with Evergreen
>>> > cooperative solar via my dayjob and have somewhat of an inside "scoop"
>>> on
>>> > the situation, if you will.  However, they are opening up peoples minds
>>> to
>>> > some very exciting opportunities and possibilities.
>>>
>>> > Here is a shortlist of the projects I am/have been involved with: Open
>>> > Source Ecology, Columbia Exchange Circle, Cleveland Economic Democracy
>>> > Network (includes IWW, FNB, coop organizing, among other things.  we
>>> have
>>> > read homebrew rev in discussion groups!), Open Pario, Forward
>>> Foundation,
>>> > Appropedia, etc.
>>>
>>> It's excellent to know there's someone on the ground in Cleveland
>>> involved in the local economic democracy and cooperative initiatives,
>>> who's also been involved in so much open manufacturing stuff.
>>>
>>> > I would really like to chat sometime soon, as i would like to have some
>>> of
>>> > your input on some of our (CEDNET) efforts around organizing truly
>>> > cooperative, distributed networks of micromanufacturing shops, and
>>> other
>>> > types of worker cooperatives, exchange systems, group purchasing and
>>> ag-coop
>>> > style syndicate organising.  We are serious, have skills, funding
>>> sources,
>>> > experience, and are drawing up some concrete plans.  A decent amount of
>>> the
>>> > folks in CEDNET have a variety of manufacturing experience, and we have
>>> > worked with, in various capacities, and are beginning to approach
>>> workers
>>> > and local leaders in the interest of organizing with displaced workers
>>> via
>>> > USW, IUE, UAW,WU, etc.  Also, Forward Foundation has been doing local
>>> > economic development projects all over, and has some great connections
>>> > throughout the rust-belt.  They have clients who are looking to scale
>>> up
>>> > some big micromanufacturing projects in Pittsburgh.
>>> >
>>> > So, would you be interested in getting a dialouge going? You can
>>> respond via
>>> > email, or eventually drop me a line at 440.476.7984 and/or
>>> 216.482.7617. I
>>> > also live in the ohio city neighborhood of cleveland, and you are free
>>> to
>>> > come by anytime and meet up with us (not sure where you are situated).
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how much help I can be, since (as I mentioned) my shop
>>> and software skills are nil and I have no organizational talent at
>>> all.  My main goal in writing the post at P2P Blog was to make the two
>>> sides (the Cleveland cooperative folks and the P2P/Open Manufacturing
>>> folks) aware of each other's existence and maybe foster some links
>>> between them.  The fact that there's someone on Cleveland who's
>>> invovled in both is very heartening.  It's also good that you've
>>> worked with Sam Rose.  Just off the top of my head, I would suggest
>>> subscribing to the P2P Foundation email list and the Open
>>> Manufacturing list at Google Groups, if you're not already a member.
>>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing?pli=1
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how much contact or input you have with the Democracy
>>> Collaborative or Community-Wealth or any of the other official bodies,
>>> but it would be interesting to see the results if some organization
>>> like OSE, the Austin Fab Lab people, a nearby hackerspace, or
>>> 100kGarages approached them officially,  organization to organization.
>>>  Also if you know anyone with a ShopBot or other tools currently being
>>> accepted into the 100kGarages network, they might make some overtures.
>>>
>>> FWIW, given that I'm completely out of touch with the situation on the
>>> ground, it seems to me that anything that can spur
>>> organization-to-organization contacts and increase the visibility of
>>> the micromanufacturing movement to those in the upper  levels of the
>>> Cleveland initiatives would be very imporant.
>>>
>>> I'm cc'ing this  to both lists in hopes someone closer to the center
>>> of things can help.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kevin Carson
>>> Center for a Stateless Society http://c4ss.org
>>> Mutualist Blog:  Free Market Anti-Capitalism
>>> http://mutualist.blogspot.com
>>> The Homebrew Industrial Revolution:  A Low-Overhead Manifesto
>>> http://homebrewindustrialrevolution.wordpress.com
>>> Organization Theory:  A Libertarian Perspective
>>> http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2005/12/studies-in-anarchist-theory-of.html
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