[p2p-research] Re(interest, credit): [Commoning] Re(markets without capital?): new post

[Michel Bauwens]

Those two statements below are brilliant Sam and I wonder if you could not
explore them for a more substantial post,

Michel



There is no useful way to use money to measure sharing that I can
think of, for instance. And, everything that happens in "p2p economy"
is not an exchange. Alternative currencies will are useful, but are
not the total answer.


A system of resource co-governance needs a way to recognize the nature
of the resource (rival, non-rival, excludable, non-excludable), which
then gives grounding for the logic about how it is tracked/measured.
It's as much a social dilemma as it is a technical problem.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Franz Nahrada <f.nahrada at reflex.at> wrote:
> > Andreas, Michel,
> >
> > at least we should find a consensus that p2p economies might span
> > *different* approaches -  to the agreement between the participating
> > individuals.
> >
> > For me, all monetary forms of production (=with ex-post agreements) are
> > somewhat contradictory and not necessarily at the centeroiece of what I
> > want to see grow. But I respect all trials if they are somewhat
> > intelligent and not based on wrong assumptions (like the worst that money
> > could be used to measure  or represent labor - time)
> >
> > It seems that at least there must be a consensus that p2p economy
> *cannot*
> > be totally identified with open money economies, and that there should be
> > *equal consideration* for ex-post and ex-ante forms of social economic
> > covenants.
> >
>
> Franz is right.
>
> There is no useful way to use money to measure sharing that I can
> think of, for instance. And, everything that happens in "p2p economy"
> is not an exchange. Alternative currencies will are useful, but are
> not the total answer.
>
>
> A system of resource co-governance needs a way to recognize the nature
> of the resource (rival, non-rival, excludable, non-excludable), which
> then gives grounding for the logic about how it is tracked/measured.
> It's as much a social dilemma as it is a technical problem.
>
>
>
> > A last remark: there is no moral money without moratorium.
> >
> > all the best
> >
> > Franz
> >
> >
> >
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