[p2p-research] Cybernetics the missing piece for partnership state and steady state economy?

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 18 06:19:22 CEST 2009


Thank you for the contribution, which will appear on the 20th!

(
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/cybernetics-for-resource-based-economics/2009/09/20
)

Michel

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Alton Lindsay Jr.
<junioreality at yahoo.com>wrote:

> One of the key aspects of enhancing P2P in the material world is figuring
> out how we can divide up natural resources for means of production. And
> while we divide up such resources, the need for stabilizing this resource
> throughput and waste disposal is important in not deteriorating ecosystems.
>  The current organizational structures of governments and corporations are
> not designed for such solutions. What does a new redesign look like? This is
> the answer from the viewpoint of Cybernetics and the Viable System Model.
> Parliaments and Congresses are replaced by citizens chosen for their
> knowledge and competence, not their ability to run political campaigns.
> Ideology is scrapped in favor of practical organizations and technical
> solutions.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrgRJiJBU2I&feature=related
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> Cybernetics is inevitable and we have the means to do it in every aspect of
> the social environment. When computers eventually have sensors extended into
> all areas of the physical and social complex, we will be able to achieve
> centralization of decision-making. In a global resource-based economy,
> decisions would not be based on local politics but on a holistic problem
> solving approach.
>
>
>
> For example, with electrical sensors extended into the agricultural region,
> computerized systems would manage and control agriculture by monitoring the
> water table, insects, pests, plant diseases, soil nutrients, and so forth.
> The information processed will enable us to arrive at more appropriate
> decision-making based on feedback from the environment.
>
>
> Computers, open software, and artificial intelligence will serve as
> catalysts for change. They will establish scientific scales of performance.
> Eventually, the installation of machine decision-making will manage all
> resources serving the common good of a steady state economy and P2P
> production.
>
>
> This will result in a more humane and meaningful approach for shaping
> tomorrow’s civilization that is not based on the opinions or desires of a
> particular sect or individual. All decisions would be made on the basis of a
> comprehensive survey of resources, energy, and existing technology without
> allowing any advantage to a particular nation or select group of people.
>
>
> This may be accomplished with large-scale, computer-based processors that
> can assist us in defining the most humane and appropriate ways to manage
> environmental and human affairs. This is essentially the function of
> government. With computers processing trillions of bits of information per
> second, existing technologies far exceed the human capacity for processing
> information and they can arrive at equitable and sustainable decisions about
> the development and distribution of physical resources. With this potential,
> we would evolve beyond political decisions made on the basis of power and
> advantage.
>
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> Further readings on cybernetics:
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> http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/ASC/CYBERNETICS.html
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> http://www.thevenusproject.com/images/stories/a-designingthefuturee-book.pdf
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viable_System_Model
> http://www.metaphorum.org/govpol.htm
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>
> --- On *Thu, 9/17/09, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>* wrote:
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>
> From: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Cybernetics the missing piece for partnership state and steady
> state economy?
> To: "Alton Lindsay Jr." <junioreality at yahoo.com>
> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 10:59 PM
>
> Dear Alton:
>
> Would you like to write an intro to that video, which we could show on the
> site, and explain how you see the connection with steady state and p2p?
>
> In any case, thanks for the references!
>
> It's not an area I'm well versed in myself,
>
> Michel
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Alton Lindsay Jr. <junioreality at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=junioreality@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>>  Hello, I've recently became a big reader of your p2p blog and i thought
>> you would find this video and readings on Cybernetics interesting and a
>> possible solution for establishing a partnership state and a steady state
>> economy.
>>
>> http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/ASC/CYBERNETICS.html
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrgRJiJBU2I&feature=related
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viable_System_Model
>> http://www.metaphorum.org/govpol.htm
>>
>>
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