[p2p-research] Michel; A question

Fri Sep 4 17:41:21 CEST 2009

I have downloaded and used Cyclos to evaluate it. I have it run-able
on this computer that I am talking to you on right now

It is a little top heavy, but workable

I would recommend mapping out you own needs as if you were going to
have a system built from scratch, then seeing how closely Cyclos can
fill those needs. Cyclos in it's current state may force you to do
lots of stuff through the web that you don't want to do for instance.
Although, they do have some API's that could connect RFID readers, bar
coe readers and other data from external devices with Cyclos.

Cyclos is also tougher to host and maintain as it is coded in Java.
Likely would be tough to succeed in deploying without at least a VPS
with root access.

All of that being said, Cyclos is probably worth a thorough evaluation
for what I understand that you are trying to do

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Matt Boggs<matt at digiblade.com> wrote:
> CYCLOS certainly looks like a contender without reinventing the wheel.
> Dante, is this project truly, as we Americans say, stuck in the mud?
>
> Do we have anyone here at P2P with experience using CYCLOS ?
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> Matt
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> From: Dante-Gabryell Monson [mailto:dante.monson at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:14 AM
> To: Michel Bauwens
> Cc: Matt Boggs; Simon Edhouse; Samuel Rose
> Subject: Re: [p2p-research] Michel; A question
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> Bernard Lietaer has been investigating - for a contract to develop a
> regional currency project.
>
> As far as I remember, the ready to use solutions in that field are
> proprietary - I ll try to find the references I once read.
>
> As for open source, Cyclos from Strohalm Foundation seems, as far as I
> heard, to be in the process of releasing patches to enable certain
> functionalities regarding card use.    Then after that it also seems to be
> about having the card reader network contract - often through an existing
> card network company.
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi Simon,
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> have their been any developments regarding card-based currencies, especially
> as related to 'open money'?
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> Michel
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> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Matt Boggs <matt at digiblade.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Dante, and you\all are welcome to visit anytime. The
> ‘Twollers’ project looks promising as well, though I somewhat distrust
> Twitter.
>
> Still, I think the P2P Foundation should develop an open currency so as to
> make a physical foundation for the public to participate in. Also, the open
> currency should not require a laptop or smartphone, just a plastic magneto
> card.
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> Matt
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> From: Dante-Gabryell Monson [mailto:dante.monson at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:00 AM
> To: Samuel Rose; Matt Boggs
> Cc: Michel Bauwens; Dmytri Kleiner; Dante-Gabryell Monson; Kevin Carson;
> Phoebe
> Subject: Re: [p2p-research] Michel; A question
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> Hi Matt,
>
> sounds exciting !
>
> You are bringing together resources to make my own dream come true !
> I mentioned it to one of my friends, and he said "well, we ll have to move
> there"...
>
> Although personally, I ll first try it here, by trying to connect existing
> initiatives  :-)
>
> What concerns what Sam mentioned - experimenting with Cyclos,
> it is at a halt.  Not enough interest , including from experienced
> programmer friends that spent a few hours on it, despite a budget for it.
>
> I m closely looking at potential outcomes of the Meta Currency project ,
>
> http://www.metacurrency.org/
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> http://vimeo.com/4448209
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> personally, to hopefully, "some day" , experiment with some currency
> architectures - especially an architecture that I d like to be based on
> "intentional requests" as currency units flowing through a system of users,
> till the intentional debt is paid for by whoever could contribute and earn
> reputation credits with it.
>
> In other words, it would be some kind of stigmergic system, if it would work
> the way I imagine it : http://cashwiki.org/en/DebttoIntention
>
> All the best !
>
> Dante
> http://hitchwiki.org/en/Dante
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Kevin Carson
> <free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 9/3/09, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  LETS and P2P systems are not global, they tend to be more localized an
>>  situational. So, It is best to work towards optimizing what you need
>>  for your area and your project. if you use open standards and open
>>  source software, others can replicate what you are doing, and adapt it
>>  to their local conditions.
>
> A global effort might be useful for what Paul referred to as
> "stigmergic" development in another thread.   Model p2p money software
> might be designed to be adopted by any local network that wanted to
> use it, and to be built on on a modular basis.
>
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