[p2p-research] Michel; A question

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 4 17:39:51 CEST 2009


Thanks for responding to Matt's request if you have any knowledge and
experience with Cyclos,

Michel

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Matt Boggs <matt at digiblade.com> wrote:

>  CYCLOS certainly looks like a contender without reinventing the wheel.
> Dante, is this project truly, as we Americans say, stuck in the mud?
>
> Do we have anyone here at P2P with experience using CYCLOS ?
>
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>
> Matt
>
> *From:* Dante-Gabryell Monson [mailto:dante.monson at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 04, 2009 9:14 AM
> *To:* Michel Bauwens
> *Cc:* Matt Boggs; Simon Edhouse; Samuel Rose
>
> *Subject:* Re: [p2p-research] Michel; A question
>
>
>
> Bernard Lietaer has been investigating - for a contract to develop a
> regional currency project.
>
> As far as I remember, the ready to use solutions in that field are
> proprietary - I ll try to find the references I once read.
>
> As for open source, Cyclos from Strohalm Foundation seems, as far as I
> heard, to be in the process of releasing patches to enable certain
> functionalities regarding card use.    Then after that it also seems to be
> about having the card reader network contract - often through an existing
> card network company.
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Simon,
>
>
>
> have their been any developments regarding card-based currencies,
> especially as related to 'open money'?
>
>
>
> Michel
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Matt Boggs <matt at digiblade.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Dante, and you\all are welcome to visit anytime. The
> ‘Twollers’ project looks promising as well, though I somewhat distrust
> Twitter.
>
> Still, I think the P2P Foundation should develop an open currency so as to
> make a physical foundation for the public to participate in. Also, the open
> currency should not require a laptop or smartphone, just a plastic magneto
> card.
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Dante-Gabryell Monson [mailto:dante.monson at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 04, 2009 7:00 AM
> *To:* Samuel Rose; Matt Boggs
> *Cc:* Michel Bauwens; Dmytri Kleiner; Dante-Gabryell Monson; Kevin Carson;
> Phoebe
> *Subject:* Re: [p2p-research] Michel; A question
>
>
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> sounds exciting !
>
> You are bringing together resources to make my own dream come true !
> I mentioned it to one of my friends, and he said "well, we ll have to move
> there"...
>
> Although personally, I ll first try it here, by trying to connect existing
> initiatives  :-)
>
> What concerns what Sam mentioned - experimenting with Cyclos,
> it is at a halt.  Not enough interest , including from experienced
> programmer friends that spent a few hours on it, despite a budget for it.
>
> I m closely looking at potential outcomes of the Meta Currency project ,
>
> http://www.metacurrency.org/
>
> http://vimeo.com/4448209
>
> personally, to hopefully, "some day" , experiment with some currency
> architectures - especially an architecture that I d like to be based on
> "intentional requests" as currency units flowing through a system of users,
> till the intentional debt is paid for by whoever could contribute and earn
> reputation credits with it.
>
> In other words, it would be some kind of stigmergic system, if it would
> work the way I imagine it : http://cashwiki.org/en/DebttoIntention
>
> All the best !
>
> Dante
> http://hitchwiki.org/en/Dante
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Kevin Carson <
> free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 9/3/09, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  LETS and P2P systems are not global, they tend to be more localized an
> >  situational. So, It is best to work towards optimizing what you need
> >  for your area and your project. if you use open standards and open
> >  source software, others can replicate what you are doing, and adapt it
> >  to their local conditions.
>
> A global effort might be useful for what Paul referred to as
> "stigmergic" development in another thread.   Model p2p money software
> might be designed to be adopted by any local network that wanted to
> use it, and to be built on on a modular basis.
>
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