[p2p-research] Michel; A question

[Michel Bauwens]

Hi Matt,

This is a really great initiative, and I'm proud that we have inspired a
part of it. (I'm hoping you can add/use P2P explicitely in your project
name, to indicate the linkage). I feel there are 2 people in particular  you
should be talking to for the moment.

Sam Rose, who has been thinking deeply, and working on implementing,
comprehensive systems of low-treshold financing means of production; and
Dmytri Kleiner, who just proposed to implement a social news network for us.
Perhaps your idea could be integrated in Dmytri's recent proposal?

As for me as a person, I'm really overwhelmed right now, combining two jobs,
one teaching, the other nurturing the P2P Community through its knowledge
base, while still struggling with personal sustainability issues. Right now,
I don't feel I can pull more weight ...

I could also put you in touch with some of our monetary experts, so that you
could implement mutual credit clearing system (which requires no upfront
money, just a recognition of each others performed services which can then
be used as non-'money' in the whole community).

Some people I'm thinking of: "Thomas Greco -- thg" <thg at mindspring.com>,
"Guillaume P. Lebleu" <guillaume at lebleu.org>, "chris cook" <
cojock at hotmail.com>,

Matt, this is a super great project, I wholeheartedly support it, and
certainly in terms of spreading the news and internetworking, I will do what
I can.

If Dmytri can create the network, with an integrated social currency, and
Sam can give you advice on an integrated economic system implementation,
then that seems like a good way to go for me,

what do you think?

(once you feel ready for a public announcement, let me know, you can also
post your note at Ning for further discussion)

Michel

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Matt Boggs <matt at digiblade.com> wrote:

> But first, a little bit about me:
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> I live in downtown Denver Colorado and have just recently secured a decent
> sized warehouse with a 15,000 sq. /ft. lot suitable for growing. My partners
> at this space include very talented hardware engineers, a Horticulturist,
> specialized tradesmen (welder, fabrication, etc.) and myself. I put this
> group together to explore various sustainability studies, engineering and
> reengineering ideas. The ‘soul’ of these studies is rooted in the P2P
> Foundation and the betterment of my community. My first goal is to focus on
> a small group of members (300-500) of ‘mostly’ people I know to be
> sympathetic to what I’m doing (I am not new to community building). Before
> the group gets too big, I would create another ‘chapter’. Each chapter would
> be free\encouraged to communicate\exchange with each other. To start, our
> first production studies will include; a large greenhouse, a biodiesel
> facility, a walk-in cooler for EG (Excessive Goods that are not for resale).
> We will also set up educational workshops on these topics and their
> associated components. Future near term projects include solar, algae
> production, byproducts from biodiesel\greenhouse, micro gardening, open
> source hardware modules and a good deal of hacking items into other things.
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> And now my question; I would like to accomplish these tasks with a minimal
> amount of money. There will always be ‘hard costs’ but I feel this project
> will be incomplete without the inclusion of some sort of organized system
> like LETS, which I know you are familiar with. Why does the P2P Foundation
> not start a non-money system? God knows, I’ve seen some great ideas shared
> on the P2P list over the years. Here is what I envision: A social network (I
> know you dislike that word) like MySpace, but includes a person’s social
> currency value. That value, in the form of; what I can do and what I’ve done
> for the community would be displayed as a graph. I would also throw in a
> little bit of Craigslist as well for good measure while keeping the concept
> of federal dollars out and social\time dollars in. I believe the fastest way
> to educate the people on P2P (bottom up) is getting them comfortable with a
> system that is familiar but different enough to subtly change their mindset.
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> Anyway, Michel, I’ve wanted to write this note for some time. I figured now
> was the best, as I’ve put both feet into this new project.
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> Matt
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