[p2p-research] The meaning and purpose of Profit (was: Scientific American: Does Economics Violate the Laws of Physics?)

Samuel Rose samuel.rose at gmail.com
Fri Oct 30 16:15:01 CET 2009


Indeed, this is what we are doing now in Local Food Systems. it's also
what I am advocating for many businesses I work with.

Consider a person who invests part of their Urban Agriculture plot to
allowing kids to come and learn about growing healthy foods as part of
their school curriculum, then later gives access local homeless people
to harvest the food grown by the students in exchange for a small
amount labor/help in the Urban farm plot

No money has changed hands, no tracking, no profit, no price above
cost etc. None of it This type of stuff is happening now.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Many people and entrepreneurs are already reconsidering profit Patrick ...
> there is an important shift towards different forms of outcome, instead of
> income, based organizations,
>
> Michel
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Tere Vadén <tere.vaden at uta.fi> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Patrick Anderson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Tere Vadén <tere.vaden at uta.fi> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Here's a great table on EROEI:
>> >>
>> >> Hmm... "Estimated Return On Investment" is talking about Profit.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Ah, sorry, my mistake, I was unclear: in this context EROEI is "energy
>> > return on energy investment", i.e., EROEI equals the energy gained
>> > divided
>> > by the energy used.
>> >
>>
>> Damn.  What an unfortunate time for me to complain.  Oh well, my
>> advice will be ignored either way.
>>
>> I wonder what it will take for us to reconsider the meaning and
>> purpose of Profit.  The purposeful destruction of abundance in the
>> name of keep price above cost does not seem to be enough.
>>
>> We've know about this conundrum for a long time now.
>>
>> My favorite satirical work on this subject is "The Candlemaker's
>> Petition" [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candlemakers%27_petition ]
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