[p2p-research] Fwd: Petition against police violence to migrants and activists in Greece

[Nathan Cravens]

Yeah. Leave them kids alone. And by kids I mean, the cops. ;)

Nathan


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Paul D. Fernhout <
pdfernhout at kurtz-fernhout.com> wrote:

> In the long term, we need structural reform more than we need to ask the
> police to be nicer to individuals.
>
> As I suggested before, in ten or twenty years, policing will just be done
> with robots, who will have even less humanity than the human officers. :-(
>
> Google search:
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=police+robots
>
> Examples:
>
>
> http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/10/18/1320259/MIT-Researchers-Develop-Autonomous-Indoor-Robocopter
> "Researchers at MIT's Robust Robotics Group have developed a robotic
> helicopter capable of autonomously flying inside buildings or other
> GPS-denied environments. It has an on-board camera and a laser scanner that
> maps the local environment. The video talks about search-and-rescue and
> civil engineering applications, but it also brings somewhat scary reminders
> of Minority Report to my head. How long till I see one of these chasing me
> down a dark alley? The team's website has more videos showing earlier
> stages
> of the project."
>
> An apparent robocop mock up, but likely within twenty years:
>  "Humanoid Automonous Police Robot"
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLbla1IJ6oc
>
> As depicted here in text fiction:
>  http://www.marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm
>
> For reference:
>  "Latest Humanoid Robot (to help disabled and older people)"
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CETUmThm8Rg&feature=related
>
> But one for real with treads available right now:
>  http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/08/armed-robots-so/
> "Armed robots — similar to the ones now on patrol in Iraq — are being
> marketed to domestic police forces, according to the machines’ manufacturer
> and law enforcement officers.  None of the gun-toting ‘bots appear to have
> been deployed domestically,  yet.  Both cops and company officials say it’s
> only a matter of time, however. ... Other than some R&D with the shotgun
> mount, we haven’t used it operationally,"  Massachusetts State Police
> Trooper Mike Rogowski tells DANGER ROOM.  "But they’re on the way.  They’re
> coming," "
>
> And this one in Korea is it seems currently in use (previously mentioned):
>  "South Korea's Machine Gun Sentry Robot"
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5YftEAbmMQ
>
> And already there is use of Predator drones in my home state (previously
> mentioned):
> "Predator Drone Patrolling New York Border "
> http://www.infowars.com/predator-drone-patrolling-new-york-border/
>
> We have so few years to turn this culture around as we continue to build
> our values and an assumption of scarcity instead of abundance into
> infrastructure of advanced technology.
>
> If we have the amazing technology we need to build police robots, we
> ironically should not need them (at least for what they are planned to be
> used for.)
>  "Jacque Fresco on Research & Development versus Law & making the world
> work for everybody"
>  http://www.youtube.com/user/jacquefresco#p/a/u/2/pbtbGcKiLiM
>
> Or, from 1940 and Charlie Chaplin:
>
> http://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechthegreatdictator.html
> "Greed has poisoned men's souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has
> goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed but we
> have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want.
> Our knowledge has made us cynical, our cleverness hard and unkind. We think
> too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More
> than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities,
> life will be violent and all will be lost."
>
> It is amazing now how fast a couple buttons can get pushed to permanently
> shut someone out of a digital world (banning from some digital forum). Soon,
> it may not be that hard to do the same physically.
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_recognition_system
> "In addition to being used for security systems, authorities have found a
> number of other applications for facial recognition systems. While earlier
> post 9/11 deployments were well publicized trials, more recent deployments
> are rarely written about due to their covert nature."
>
> The same metal we can use to build spaceships and seasteads and skyscrapers
> can also be used to forge chains.
>
> But, once police robots are in place, they will be unlikely to listen to
> Chaplin's plea from that movie: "Soldiers: Don't give yourselves to brutes,
> men who despise you, enslave you, who regiment your lives, tell you what to
> do, what to think and what to feel; who drill you, diet you, treat you like
> cattle, use you as cannon fodder. Don't give yourselves to these unnatural
> men, machine men, with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not
> machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in
> your hearts. You don't hate; only the unloved hate, the unloved and the
> unnatural."
>
> Still, eventually the robots may become more compassionate than the people
> who build them or deploy them? One can hope.
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics
>
> But until then, we need structural reforms, IMHO.
> "Getting Greece and Iceland to be 99% self-sufficient by mass;
> international consortium"
> http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing/msg/b918d271f9bb701d
>
>
> --Paul Fernhout
> http://www.pdfernhout.net/
> http://www.beyondajoblessrecovery.org/
>
>
>
> Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: akis gavriilidis <cr33396 at telenet.be>
>> Date: Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:43 AM
>> Subject: Petition against police violence to migrants and activists in
>> Greece
>>
>>
>> Feel free to sign and/or diffuse further on
>>
>> Twitter petition  http://act.ly/pq
>>
>> Sign here http://www.petitiononline.com/nomadic1/petition.html
>>
>>
>> To:  The Greek Minister of Citizen Protection
>>
>> Following the December revolts in Greece, police violence against
>> migrants and activists in Greece is becoming more and more intense. The
>> xenophobic turn of the mainstream media combined with the electoral rise
>> of the extreme right wing party LAOS have played a vital role in
>> legitimizing police violence against both foreigners and citizens who
>> dare to protest. Ironically these tactics are part of an overall plan to
>> "protect the citizen" by openly demonstrating the ability of the state
>> to control those who participated in the December revolts. While “scoop”
>> operations and deportations take place daily all over the country
>> subjecting migrants to different forms of physical and psychological
>> violence, activists who react against it are also becoming subject to
>> the arbitrary violent and terrorizing tactics of the police. Recently
>> Mohamed Kamran Atif, a migrant from Pakistan, has died after being
>> tortured in detention at the police station of Nikaia. During the
>> protest march organized in response, several activists were arrested and
>> imprisoned. Few days later Dimitris Parsanoglou, a sociologist and
>> anti-racist activist, has been arrested and detained without a legal
>> representative for three days because he protested against the arbitrary
>> arrest and beating by the police of a migrant in a central spot of Athens.
>>
>> We ask from the Greek government to
>>
>> - stop police violence against migrants and activists
>> - stop “scoop” operations and arbitrary deportations of migrants
>> - stop arbitrary arrests and imprisonment of activists of all
>> nationalities
>>
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