[p2p-research] P2P Ideology

Samuel Rose samuel.rose at gmail.com
Wed Oct 21 03:44:29 CEST 2009


Where what we are calling "P2P" begins to resemble and function like
an ideology, the culture attracted will begin to disaggregate. What
will be left is an ideology that is fundamentally not what we are
calling "P2P'.





On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Matt Cooperrider
<mattcooperrider at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm forking this out from the discussion "Is the P2PFoundation a Shill for
> Proprietary  Software?"  The question of whether P2P is an ideology needs
> discussing.
>
> -----
>
> Athina wrote:
>
>> It seems this raises again the issue of ideology I think in p2p which so
>> far has been a bit conveniently thrown under the carpet, especially in
>> relation to the commercialization and promotion of the open source and
>> open
>> products in general.
>>
>>
>
> Kevin wrote:
>
> I don't think it's been thrown under the carpet at all.  Upon close
> inspection, the notion of a general ideology in p2p itself is a nonsensical
> concept.  P2P is a phenomenon / process.  Participants may have diverse
> ideologies (e.g. profit-only vs freedom-only), but as long as they agree on
> the basic principles of production, that doesn't impact the process.
> Ideological differences can and do impact organizations participating in p2p
> production, and that has come up regularly (e.g. Wikipedia).
>
> -------
>
> I don't have much of an argument, but I wanted to invite others to discuss
> (particularly to invite Athina to rebut, and Kevin to expand on his close
> inspection).
>
> I agree with Kevin that there is no "general ideology in p2p itself", but
> the notion of "p2p itself" brackets the historical context.  Employing p2p's
> "basic principles of production" in 2009 has potentially huge political and
> social implications.  Those of us who work to advance "p2p alternatives" do
> so because p2p processes (maybe not in every case, but when considered
> together) privilege certain outcomes that we prefer.  Our preferences need
> to be examined.
>
> Best,
> Matt
>
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