[p2p-research] Fwd: [Autonomo.us] ESR complains about "forge" lock-in

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sat Oct 10 10:39:11 CEST 2009


This seems quite significant ... I'm hoping that Sam or Sepp might have
intelligent commentary on the issue, for publication on the p2p blog ..
°
nathan: this also has relevance for the manchester event on collaborative
platforms,

Michel

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From: Wes Felter <wesley at felter.org>
Date: Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM
Subject: [Autonomo.us] ESR complains about "forge" lock-in
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http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1282

"The worst problem with almost all current hosting sites is that
they’re data jails. You can put data (the source code revision
history, mailing list address lists, bug reports) into them, but
getting a complete snapshot of that data back out often ranges from
painful to impossible."

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1295

"I conclude that the SourceForge/GForge/FusionForge architecture, as
it is now, is an evolutionary dead end — overspecialized for
webbiness. To tackle challenges like fixing the data-jail problem,
scripting, and seamless project migration, one of these systems will
need to be rebuilt from the inside out."

Wes Felter
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