[p2p-research] Fwd: Urgent Need for Blair?
Michel Bauwens
michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 7 20:24:34 CEST 2009
I don't discount that Blair meant well, and that the lies were done "in the
interest of the good" ... but of course, the way is paved with good
intentions ... including ours ..
but I must admit I never really understood that blind alignment with the
U.S. ... it puzzles me .. he basically destroyed his career and the future
of his party with it ... without it, labour had not done a bad job ...
(within the reality of neoliberal constraints)
Michel
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, it is a plausible epithet, I'm afraid. As it is for Bush/Cheney.
>
> But imagine a picture of that daft face with "war crminal" under it. It's
> silly. How could such a dazed and affable duck be a war criminal? Hitler
> looked the part; so too Stalin and Mussolini. Blair looks like a bar keep
> or a guy working in a hospital x-raying your ankle. He's not plausibly
> bad--not like a Hillary Clinton, say, or even Angela Merkel. Blair is
> someone you tell you sad tale to and then leave a big tip. He's a
> friend...not a threat. Obama has many similar traits. Obama finds it
> harder to hide his intellect--and he has a lot more to hide. Blair is just
> a pleasant dinner guest. The French and the Germans will see him as an easy
> mark...a fool. They'll be surprised.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> apart from the little detail of being a war criminal, who would in my mind
>> discredit the whole EU institution, I do agree ... without the Iraq lies and
>> manipulations, he would have been pretty good as far as politicians go ...
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Blair, so far as I can tell, is the perfect politician.
>>>
>>> He is religious though changeably so. So people can believe he believes,
>>> but is not dogmatic.
>>>
>>> He appears stupid, but also can seem bookish and geek-like. He has a
>>> remarkable ability to transition from daft to dillitante.
>>>
>>> He is compassionate, but also ruthless and cunning in debates.
>>>
>>> He is nominally a leftist but acts like a right-wing guy more often than
>>> not.
>>>
>>> He offends no one, but is remarkably unable to look feckless and weak.
>>>
>>> He seems to hustle and work hard, though nothing is ever really
>>> accomplished.
>>>
>>> The only people who see him as weak are unlikable numbers guys...like the
>>> current what's his name.
>>>
>>> We want to forgive Tony Blair. We want to say to him it was "well
>>> tried." We know he won't actually try anything.
>>>
>>> Like I said, he's perfect.
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Michel Bauwens <
>>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: <ajnj at aliencamel.com>
>>>> Date: Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:24 PM
>>>> Subject: Urgent Need for Blair?
>>>> To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Michel
>>>>
>>>> Not really your thing but some of it you should enjoy -- I hope!
>>>>
>>>> Urgent Need for Blair as President of Europe
>>>> Maximizing early collective learning in anticipation of future crises
>>>> http://www.laetusinpraesens.org/musings/eublair.php
>>>>
>>>> Learning from manipulative communication skills
>>>> Learning from leadership with a problematic track record
>>>> Learning from "creative democracy"
>>>> Learning from inspirational decision-making
>>>> Learning from the "creative accounting" processes of government
>>>> Learning from the creative reframing of commitments by government
>>>> Learning from the outcome of necessary tough decisions of governance
>>>> Questions for urgent collective learning by Europeans
>>>> Necessity for a European Lord of Misrule?
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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>
>
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