[p2p-research] p2presearch Digest, Vol 25, Issue 88

[Edward Miller]

Ryan,

I am listening. Unfortunately, I haven't much to add beyond "moar robots!"
myself.

You guys have some great discussions on here.... but I think the private
nature of these discussions is rather pointless, and I think the mailing
list format is less efficient than a forum. I think these discussions need
to be heard by as many people as possible.


> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:11:39 -0500
> From: Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [p2p-research] Post-Depression first: Americans get more
>        money   from government than they give back | csmonitor.com
> To: Kevin Carson <free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com>
> Cc: p2presearch at listcultures.org
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> This is soooooooo correct!  People don't realize just how much damage has
> been done at the low end of labor.
>
> It is amazing how much poorer the poor are now relative to the rich.
>
> Whatever the social justice of this (and I feel it is appalling) the fact
> is, it is going to get even worse.
>
> Happy to hear it discussed.  I somewhat feel as if Paul F. and I have been
> saying it back and forth to each other in a vacuum.
>
> That is why the conclusions he and I draw keep linking to robotics...it is
> the only way for the trend line to continue...
>
> Ryan
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Kevin Carson <
> free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 11/25/09, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > interesting stat that recently came out is that if the labor-capital
> > > distribution had remained the same as before the reagan era, the
> minimum
> > > wage would be at $40 !!!
> >
> > There has also been a major shift in employee remuneration from wage
> > earners to salaried managers.  If management and supervisors were
> > reduced to the same share of total employee compensation they got
> > thirty years ago, it would be enough to increase average wages by
> > about a third.
> >
> > --
> > Kevin Carson
> > Center for a Stateless Society http://c4ss.org
> > Mutualist Blog:  Free Market Anti-Capitalism
> > http://mutualist.blogspot.com
> > Studies in Mutualist Political Economy
> > http://www.mutualist.org/id47.html
> > Organization Theory:  A Libertarian Perspective
> >
> http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2005/12/studies-in-anarchist-theory-of.html
> >
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