[p2p-research] Building Alliances (state and commons)

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 9 20:11:40 CET 2009


This is exactly what I meant just before, a corporation is a mini-state
within its purview, in some way, and the example you gave is how a new p2p
form, mutualization, can render some of its function obsolete. I think that
many developments today point into that direction, which again, is different
from a direct confrontation.




On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry to reply to myself...but I have been watching if Twitter is a case of
> corporate org mutualizing.  Many talk about small organizations taking over
> the Twitter API for their own ends...effectively freezing its possibilities
> to a co-op rather than corporate goal planning process.
>
> Ryan
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Kevin Carson <
>> free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> This ignores the extent to which human societies can function in a
>>> solidaristic manner through voluntary cooperation and mutual aid,
>>> without acting through a state.
>>>
>>
>> What I think tends to militate against this position, Kevin, is that most
>> people could give lots of examples of co-ops and mutualist organizations
>> de-mutualizing (insurance companies, e.g.) but very few where
>> statist/corporate bodies go mutual.  Correct me here, but I can't think of
>> any...
>>
>> I am always interested in A-->B in social studies.  It is always
>> overlooked.  People visualize end states, but can't give a convincing
>> account of the transition...and then seem to act is if that is an OK thing
>> to ignore.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
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