[p2p-research] article request

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 8 22:58:31 CET 2009


thanks Ryan, slated for the 14th,

Michel

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michel:
>
> For your consideration, here is a Maia Maia article:
>
>
> Maia Maia: A Coupon Currency for Carbon Reduction Initiatives and the
> Failure of Micro-initiatives
>
> A person inclined to follow P2P really wants to like the Maia Maia<http://www.maiamaia.org/>project, and I do, in principle.
> I really hope it works, but it won't--in practice.  The idea is fairly
> simple: Implement a carbon reduction club and thereby earn a standard amount
> of “booyas” which are a currency coupon to be used at local vendors
> supporting the (hopefully) viral movement.
>
> In practice, there are lots of issues.  First, there is no central source
> of legitimacy to the idea except the idea itself.  It’s a nice idea, but
> it is hardly unique or bold.
>
> Second, we don’t really need to standardize on booyas, and the network of
> booya takers is not yet a selling point based on established presence—like
> Facebook is.  So there is really little reason to suspect the movement
> will catch hold and center itself amongst the many possible spokes of
> (potentially) participating groups.
>
> More importantly, the site itself is clunky and the marketing and component
> names seem arbitrary--but not in a good way.  In a sense it is a bit sad
> to see these little efforts form without building off of standardized
> technology or currency components, a base of shared intellectual umph, or
> links to important existing environmental or social groups.   In short,
> Maia Maia is too small to matter—and that’s a painful thing for a P2P
> advocate to say about a well-intentioned P2P effort.  But it needs saying.
> Just because you want to be in charge is not reason enough to clutter the
> world with yet another hopeful but ill-conceived project.
>
> Most of us want to solve big problems—have big ideas.  But the real value
> of P2P commons leaders is in integration—not entrepreneurship.  Of course
> we need social entrepreneurs and big thinkers.  But what is needed more
> are players who build commons—consistent and widely used component sets and
> linkages that encourage open standards—not hubs.  That’s the future that
> will catch hold.  Sadly, we’ll see 500 Maia Maia’s which will make a lot
> of people as cynical as my mother was when she was continually confronted
> with a new vendor value stamp (like the old S&H green stamps).  Everyone
> wants to be the hub; what’s needed is components.  Please find a group of
> partners to be in common with…don’t go it alone.
>
>
>   On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Michel Bauwens <
> michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> merci!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I'll take care of it tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Elifarley Callado Coelho Cruz <
>>> elifarley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Ryan,
>>>>
>>>> Can you take care of that? I'll be focusing on the article about
>>>> interest for now.
>>>>
>>>> Elifarley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 07:51, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ryan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you forwarded this right: http://www.maiamaia.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> If you or Eli have time for mentioning this on our blog, post-dated
>>>>> November 1 to 7, it would be much appreciated,
>>>>>
>>>>> Michel
>>>>>
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