[p2p-research] excellent contribution on flow money by Martien van Steenbergen

[Michel Bauwens]

ok Martien, I'd be happy to see it happen ... does the experiment by lietaer
in Ghent qualify?

Michel

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Martien van Steenbergen <
Martien at aardrock.com> wrote:

>
> On 26 May 2009, at 10:50 , Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
>  Hi Martien,
>>
>> thanks for these excellent explanations ...
>>
>
> Thank you.
>
>  however, one problem: you seem to indicate that money would have no
>> ownership ..
>>
>
> right. just like centimeters and inches don't have ownership. it is useless
> and senseless to own centimeters (unless you manufacture them, of course).
>
>  but this cannot be politically instituted,
>>
>
> why not? everything can be pilitically instituted. this too. it's a matter
> of will.
>
>  unless by new and small voluntary systems
>>
>
> or by national (or european) support and programs.
>
> any organization (like an Inc.) is fully free to implement and use whatever
> internal household system they please, as long as they adhere to the local
> laws and regulations of the country they are in. large organizations like
> Microsoft, Oracle, GM, etc, have a complete intricate internal
> financial/economical system. it even makes sense for them to include
> non-core services in their company, as it will save them interest (at least
> 20% of every euro).
>
> same applies to a country: they can use whatever monetary system pleases
> them, as long as they adhere and interface to the countries they do business
> with and to the next higher level laws and regulations.
>
> just like the WIR in Switserland.
>
>
>  is that how you see it?
>>
>> but how then to change the mainstream system? by example of the
>> alternatives?
>>
>
> right. leading by example. if The Netherlands, say, would adopt a free
> money system—based on mutual credit and flow money, and where money is
> created at the moment of transaction—while still adhering to European and
> international law, and other countries see our abundance of wealth,
> prosperity and happiness, and the fact that we will probably far exceed our
> internationally agreed goals, they will be eager to adopt some or all of it.
> see monkey do monkey. it may well become a lucrative export product :-)
>
>
> Succes en plezier,
>
> Martien.
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