[p2p-research] Peer production and/in academia (was: Re: [ox-en] Re: [p2pf] Launch of P2P Research Group)

[Michel Bauwens]

oops that went to fast ..

regarding Open Access, I'm in touch with some of the leaders like peter
suber and richard poynder and follow developments regularly through the
delicious tags on Open-Access-Movement and P2P-Scholarship, our wiki IP
section also covers it in detail.

The reason I don't bring it up much myself is that this is a fast-growing,
well-funded and already institutionalized field with support from top
leaders in academia ... like the Creative Commons, it doesn't need much help
and promotion ...

All this being said, current peer review is a very conservative force,
criticized by many innovative young researchers, and scientific research has
been integrated in commercial enterprise, leading to a breakdown in
cooperation ...

As Alessandro can probably confirm, science is actually  one of the most
reluctant fields to embrace p2p cooperation,

Michel

But of course, it would be useful to have OA people in the P2PRG ...

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Stefan Merten <smerten at oekonux.de> wrote:

> Hi Mathieu, Michel, Andreas, all!
>
> Last month (36 days ago) Mathieu O'Neil wrote:
> > Aside from the relationship to academia -Ryan said that
> > traditional academia is quite a closed system - its true but its not
> > just an elitism thing - if you are credentialed (by an institution)
> > and published (in academic journals) it does indicate a level of
> > commitment / rigour / going through the right hoops etc - so it is
> > not obvious but hey why not try to have a rapprochement..
>
> I agree with Mathieu here. Of course academia has the need to raise
> more funds just to sustain the personnel. Of course the fight in
> academia for visibility is heavy. Of course these alienated incentives
> / necessities in a exchange based environment lead to a distortion of
> the very idea of academia.
>
> But: The institutions are necessary to keep quality standards. In
> completely different fields I personally see what happens to initially
> good ideas if they are not guided by an institutional embedding.
>
> I'm always trying to find out what is good and worthwhile keeping from
> the current world and what needs to be overcome. I think the rigor of
> institutions like universities is something which needs to be kept.
> The distortions coming from alienation need to be overcome. And the
> problem of expensive research machinery must be solved.
>
> Also: What we see in peer production is very similar to the original
> idea of academia: Let there be a free flow of ideas. In fact some
> years ago I heard people arguing that Free Software is very much based
> on the principles of academia.
>
> Even inside academia there is a movement which tries to make academia
> more like peer production. It is called OpenAccess - and frankly I'm a
> bit astonished that the thread I'm responding to didn't bring it up.
>
> So the scientists in the institutions *are* the agents for a change.
> It is very similar to the success of Free Software: Those who liked
> Free Software are inside of companies and continuously suggest it. And
> step by step things happen.
>
> In fact I think this is the way to go. In the case of the P2P Research
> Group I think it would be worthwhile thinking of proponents of the
> OpenAccess movement are included somehow (I have no idea how, though).
> There was also the idea of a scientific magazine - may be this could
> be combined somehow.
>
>
>                                                Grüße
>
>                                                Stefan
>



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