[p2p-research] further contribution by David Ronfeldt on p2p as successor system

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sat May 23 09:32:19 CEST 2009


Marc,

unless this is an earlier reaction ...

we have proposed to set up a due process for this issue, there is not more
that can be done, since what you propose is a unilateral decision by
yourself and the community having to follow you, and I do not see things
happening?

Noboby has nominated Ryan nor Kevin, they volunteered, and they have earned
the trust of most of us. The only thing which can avoid ego fights is due
process, which we are proposing to you.

Is there any alternative?

Michel

On 5/23/09, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The herd does not need to bow to my will. The herd can filter at their own
> discretion.
>
> Why should I bow to the herd's demands if they don't work for me? I can't
> trim messages form my mobile phone and I want all replies in the same place
> for ease of comprehension. If My brain works differently then I get kicked
> out of the list? moderated out? I said I would agree to a logically
> motivated limit (not arbitrary as teh 100K limit we have now) based on what
> Google considers a normal length message.
>
> You and Ryan playing judge, jury and executioner by moderating me out is
> what is going on.
>
> My trust in Michel and P2P Foundation will be removed if the decision is
> not reversed.
>
> To Judge, Jury and Executioner who decided this: you have lost your moral
> standing.
>
> Enjoy YOUR list.
>
> Marc
>
>
>  On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Kevin Carson <
> free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>   On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:20 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  > So because I don't accept the arbitrary message length rule (yet
>>  > accept the logical one based on Google limit) then you subjectively
>>  > call that abuse and moderate me out of the list.
>>
>>  > This wrongness will be exposed. That even in a forum advocating
>>  > openness and equality that someone would assume authority and moderate
>>  > out an individual who disagreed with some arbitrary rule regarding
>>  > message length.
>>
>>  > I'm sure Michel does NOT stand for this. If he does that would be news
>>  > to me.
>>  > I can see thru you.
>>
>>
>> Not long ago, you dismissed requests to observe netiquette
>> (specifically to trim posts) as tantamount to expecting you to bow to
>> "the herd," and used a lot of pseudo-Nietzschean rhetoric about
>> unique, creative individuals being stifled by arbitrary rules.  And
>> you pointed out that any members of "the herd" who didn't like your
>> lack of consideration could simply filter out your emails.
>>
>> But when the system started automatically bouncing your untrimmed
>> posts, you complained about it and demanded we adjust the list
>> settings--in other words, the unique, superior, creative individual
>> demanded that the herd bow to his convenience.
>>
>> Sorry, Charlie.  As you said of our taking the trouble to filter you,
>> if you don't like having your messages bounced you can start trimming
>> them.  Why should "the herd" bow to your will?
>>
>> --
>> Kevin Carson
>> Center for a Stateless Society http://c4ss.org
>> Mutualist Blog:  Free Market Anti-Capitalism
>> http://mutualist.blogspot.com
>> Studies in Mutualist Political Economy
>> http://www.mutualist.org/id47.html
>> Organization Theory:  A Libertarian Perspective
>> http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2005/12/studies-in-anarchist-theory-of.html
>>
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>
>
> --
>
> Marc Fawzi
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