[p2p-research] p2presearch Digest, Vol 19, Issue 153

[Michel Bauwens]

Hi Marco,

I understand your and other's concerns, but it all comes down to human
effort, and I hope you understand how big my effort already is.

I'm personally happy with the list: I find it consistently interesting, with
an extremely low noise level, and the volume does not bother me. For lists
in which I'm only marginally interested, and where volume is therefore a
problem for me, I put them in my feedreader, and check them out once or
twice a month, selecting the subject headings that draw my interest. Indeed,
if an interesting item is hidden behind a wrong subject, I would miss it,
but then, we're missing out millions of things, and luckily so ...

Michel

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:05 PM, M. Fioretti <mfioretti at nexaima.net> wrote:

> On Tue, May 19, 2009 17:32:57 PM +0700, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
> > Second: if you want discipline in the subject heading, why not
> > create a set of volunteers, who would adapt the subject headings
> > manually, since people usually click reply, once corrected, it would
> > continue ... Everybody could do this job say for a week, so it
> > wouldn't be much of a burden,
>
> Michel,
>
> in all friendship, and without anymosity, really:
>
> on this list I already spend enough time whenever I compose a reply,
> to fix things which make many people waste quite more time (and money,
> if on a metered connection) than vague or untagged subjects. The
> reason why I tend to not even open most replies here is not vagueness
> of subjects, or the NUMBER of messages, is the difficulty of keeping
> track of the flow.
>
> Also, I have already spent enough time here trying to explain why
> consistently following some simple rules would greatly speed up list
> "processing" and engage more people in the conversations. Please dont'
> be offended, but considering my success so far, OK, but frankly I
> don't feel like participating in other policing efforts.
>
> In any case, that is just me. There is a reason why, regardless of
> ought email should be formatted, I don't think subject tags would work
> here, and it's really nobody's fault. The [p2p-research] string is no
> serious problem, we can keep it or leave it.
>
> But, as I already said:
>
> > this list is so (rightly!)  interdisciplinary that a) it'd be almost
> > impossible to give less than 2/3 tags to most messages, b) there
> > would be atrocious flamewars, sooner or later, about which tags
> > ought to have been prepended to a certain subject.
>
> on a technical support list it may work, but here... just remember all
> the recent hassle about what "keeping" (in a bank or under a cushion)
> or "interest" or "money" mean. Do you want to risk quarrels like that
> every time somebody feels somebody else's choice of a subject tag
> wasn't right, or new ones should be adopted?
>
> Besides... a list like this only attracts people with high education
> (formal or not it doesn't matter) or in any case used to read and
> write lots of stuff a bit more difficult than what Paris Hilton wore
> last week. Are we seriously saying that we can't make an effort to
> write subjects that convey the topic of a message without tags?
>
> Marco
> --
> Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how
> software is used *around* you:            http://digifreedom.net/node/84
>
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