[p2p-research] labour, capital and p2p

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Tue May 19 09:33:16 CEST 2009


hi ryan,

i find myself agreeing with almost everything you say in this contribution.

I think my attitude to marxism is pretty to much the same as the one I have
vis a vis traditional religion:

- we know the founders were inspired by high ethical ideals and some form of
spiritual realization

- we know the resulting institutions and movements perpetrated a lot of evil
"in the name of that ideal"

- yet: 1) many within it are still inspired by the ethical ideas and
charisma of the founders to do social good themselves; 2) and many parts of
the tradition can still be used to foster the ethical ideals and social good

Since many people in the world are still motivated and using this as a
framework, and because their is all that potential still in it, let's engage
in dialogue around our common pursuits for p2p ...



On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Stan:
>
> I do not feel I have made an ad hominem attack against Marx.  If what I
> said is perceived as such, I apologize sincerely to those who feel his
> legacy is worthy.  His critique strikes me as simply inaccurate and, at
> best, no longer relevant.  There are enduring ideas worthy of review from
> all pre-modern times, and I take Marx to be pre-Modern--or classical, like
> Adam Smith or David Ricardo who he read closely.  An aquaintance of mine,
> Professor Gavin Kennedy of Edinburgh, spends a life correcting
> misinterpretations of Adam Smith.  I have seen others do similar with the
> words of Thomas Jefferson.  I suppose that is a sort of worthy pursuit, but
> in the face of great challenges, it is not how I would wish to allocate good
> minds in a just world.
>
>
>
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