[p2p-research] very important discussion about 'now web" or 'the stream', with interesting structural comparison of facebook vs. twitter dynamics

[Michel Bauwens]

HI Marc,

I have often tried to collectivize the p2p-f streams more, but I can't
generate response to it.

Today there is a mbauwens twitter stream that has the blog and wiki stream
and generates an average of 4-5 extra followers per day, more than delicious
tags or any other system; however, since their recent redesign, friendfeed
following is picking up with one or two per day as compared to 1-2 per week
before.

We could easily have a p2pfoundation twitter stream, but what would go on
it? Who would add to it. My experience is, if noboby 'owns' that stream,
i.e. wants it to succeed and nudges people, it won't work ...

Michel



>
> I bet if P2P Research list starts a twitter account and you send out
> interesting tidbits of news/opinions thru it then it will be a really
> interesting experiment for us, that might get us into twittering (or
> tweeting) ....
>
> I'm sure fights can still happen but they will be limited to 140
> characters of pain. Imagine that! I think that alone makes it
> indispensable!
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Marc,
> >
> > I wasn't feeling it until very recenly either, and have been incredibly
> > recalcitrant regarding twitter ... but I'm slowly being convinced that
> this
> > real-time thing is indeed important, though for me, also still troubling.
> >
> > My opinion is that if you want to do any real work, you also have to
> > insulate yourself from real-time, not just from the mass media, but also
> > from the Stream that demands permanent reactivity .... Yet, we can't
> reject
> > it totally, but must 'compose' with it, adapt to it ...
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> > On 5/17/09, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Why do people always think in terms of Future A, OR, Future B, and not
> >> Future A && B && C && D etc ?
> >>
> >> I don't understand why the stream metaphor is not just another way.
> >> Why does it have to be the replacement?
> >>
> >> I think maybe in terms of metaphors competing with each other for
> >> dominance and our partaking the author is probably right that the
> >> stream metaphor will gain more momentum in the next 10 years and may
> >> (only a potentiality) become more dominant and prominent than the page
> >> metaphor, but both will exist for thousands of years. The page
> >> metaphor has already existed for thousands of years and will continue
> >> to exist for thousands of years.
> >>
> >> The stream metaphor is not new. Email is a stream. It predates RSS.
> >> The US Postal Service delivers a stream of letters. Streaming
> >> information has also existed for thousands of years.
> >>
> >> Nothing new, IMO, except what is more prominent/dominant at one time
> >> or another.
> >>
> >> Or maybe I'm just not 'feeling' it! :)
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Michel Bauwens <
> michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > here at http://www.borthwick.com/weblog/2009/04/19/699/
> >> > I consider this a must read for getting up to date on how the web is
> >> > evolving, see also my excerpts by nova spivack on the blog recently,
> >> > Michel
> >> >
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> >> >
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> >> >
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> >> >
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Marc Fawzi
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Working at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhurakij_Pundit_University -
> > http://www.dpu.ac.th/dpuic/info/Research.html -
> > http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
> >
> > Volunteering at the P2P Foundation:
> > http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net -
> > http://p2pfoundation.ning.com
> >
> > Monitor updates at http://del.icio.us/mbauwens
> >
> > The work of the P2P Foundation is supported by SHIFTN,
> > http://www.shiftn.com/
>
>
>
> --
>
> Marc Fawzi
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> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcfawzi
>



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Working at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhurakij_Pundit_University -
http://www.dpu.ac.th/dpuic/info/Research.html -
http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

Volunteering at the P2P Foundation:
http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net -
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com

Monitor updates at http://del.icio.us/mbauwens

The work of the P2P Foundation is supported by SHIFTN,
http://www.shiftn.com/
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