[p2p-research] very important discussion about 'now web" or 'the stream', with interesting structural comparison of facebook vs. twitter dynamics

[marc fawzi]

The only way for me to get into it is if I use it thru my mobile phone
just like I use texting. I had been involved in a venture in 2003
involving a form of what is now called 'pervasive gaming' that is
played over SMS. Yet I did not use SMS myself until 2007 when I met my
girlfriend who was an 'SMS power user' at that point in time. And then
I got addicted to it as I started using it.

I'm installing a Twitter app on my development iPhone (and will
actually start using the iPhone as of OS 3.0 as my phone) so I expect
that will get me to use twitter more often but the key is WHO IS
WORTHY OF MY "PERSISTENT" FOLLOWING?  Is Mel Brooks on Twitter? Is he
still funny? I doubt it, at least for the former. Whom among the
comedians or present day philosophers that I like is on Twitter? Is
there a service that tells me that, like a Twitter 411 (directory)?

I bet if P2P Research list starts a twitter account and you send out
interesting tidbits of news/opinions thru it then it will be a really
interesting experiment for us, that might get us into twittering (or
tweeting) ....

I'm sure fights can still happen but they will be limited to 140
characters of pain. Imagine that! I think that alone makes it
indispensable!



On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Marc,
>
> I wasn't feeling it until very recenly either, and have been incredibly
> recalcitrant regarding twitter ... but I'm slowly being convinced that this
> real-time thing is indeed important, though for me, also still troubling.
>
> My opinion is that if you want to do any real work, you also have to
> insulate yourself from real-time, not just from the mass media, but also
> from the Stream that demands permanent reactivity .... Yet, we can't reject
> it totally, but must 'compose' with it, adapt to it ...
>
> Michel
>
>
> On 5/17/09, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Why do people always think in terms of Future A, OR, Future B, and not
>> Future A && B && C && D etc ?
>>
>> I don't understand why the stream metaphor is not just another way.
>> Why does it have to be the replacement?
>>
>> I think maybe in terms of metaphors competing with each other for
>> dominance and our partaking the author is probably right that the
>> stream metaphor will gain more momentum in the next 10 years and may
>> (only a potentiality) become more dominant and prominent than the page
>> metaphor, but both will exist for thousands of years. The page
>> metaphor has already existed for thousands of years and will continue
>> to exist for thousands of years.
>>
>> The stream metaphor is not new. Email is a stream. It predates RSS.
>> The US Postal Service delivers a stream of letters. Streaming
>> information has also existed for thousands of years.
>>
>> Nothing new, IMO, except what is more prominent/dominant at one time
>> or another.
>>
>> Or maybe I'm just not 'feeling' it! :)
>>
>> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > here at http://www.borthwick.com/weblog/2009/04/19/699/
>> > I consider this a must read for getting up to date on how the web is
>> > evolving, see also my excerpts by nova spivack on the blog recently,
>> > Michel
>> >
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