[p2p-research] very important discussion about 'now web" or 'the stream', with interesting structural comparison of facebook vs. twitter dynamics

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sun May 17 17:19:58 CEST 2009


Hi Marc,

I wasn't feeling it until very recenly either, and have been incredibly
recalcitrant regarding twitter ... but I'm slowly being convinced that this
real-time thing is indeed important, though for me, also still troubling.

My opinion is that if you want to do any real work, you also have to
insulate yourself from real-time, not just from the mass media, but also
from the Stream that demands permanent reactivity .... Yet, we can't reject
it totally, but must 'compose' with it, adapt to it ...

Michel


On 5/17/09, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why do people always think in terms of Future A, OR, Future B, and not
> Future A && B && C && D etc ?
>
> I don't understand why the stream metaphor is not just another way.
> Why does it have to be the replacement?
>
> I think maybe in terms of metaphors competing with each other for
> dominance and our partaking the author is probably right that the
> stream metaphor will gain more momentum in the next 10 years and may
> (only a potentiality) become more dominant and prominent than the page
> metaphor, but both will exist for thousands of years. The page
> metaphor has already existed for thousands of years and will continue
> to exist for thousands of years.
>
> The stream metaphor is not new. Email is a stream. It predates RSS.
> The US Postal Service delivers a stream of letters. Streaming
> information has also existed for thousands of years.
>
> Nothing new, IMO, except what is more prominent/dominant at one time
> or another.
>
> Or maybe I'm just not 'feeling' it! :)
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > here at http://www.borthwick.com/weblog/2009/04/19/699/
> > I consider this a must read for getting up to date on how the web is
> > evolving, see also my excerpts by nova spivack on the blog recently,
> > Michel
> >
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