[p2p-research] engaging with the core principles

Ryan Lanham rlanham1963 at gmail.com
Mon May 11 16:44:52 CEST 2009


Michel, in order to address your concern: I added Item H below.  See if that
affirmation of moral action makes you more comfortable with Section 1.
Also, for those new to the discussion, we are collaborating on
http://p2pfoundation.net/Core_Peer-2-Peer_Collaboration_Principles specifically
Article 1 and subsequent.  Any and all comments, changes, criticisms, etc.
are welcome.

 [edit<http://p2pfoundation.net/Core_Peer-2-Peer_Collaboration_Principles?title=Core_Peer-2-Peer_Collaboration_Principles&action=edit&section=40>
] Article 1. P2P Interactions

A. High quality P2P <http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P> interactions exist
between peers. Peers typically recognize and interact with each other
without reference to rank or
hierarchies<http://p2pfoundation.net/Core_Peer-2-Peer_Collaboration_Principles?title=Hierarchies&action=edit&redlink=1>.


B. Peers' willingness to interact is not primarily linked to external
drivers. External drivers might include, for example, prestige in
undertaking an interaction, financial gain, or duty.

C. P2P interactions are not amoral or value neutral. A p2p ethos embodies
trying to act with goodness and
goodwill<http://p2pfoundation.net/Core_Peer-2-Peer_Collaboration_Principles?title=Goodwill&action=edit&redlink=1>as
well as with practical skills and wisdom.

D. Peer interactions are judged (by others who aspire to a p2p ethos) as
qualitatively superior if linked to contributing to a
commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Commons>.


E. Another measure of quality is the contribution to mission critical
functionality <http://p2pfoundation.net/Mission_critical_functionality>. For
example, this might involve efforts that save lives, advance learning and
understanding, enable sustainable economic processes or otherwise support or
enable key components of the public good as openly understood in free,
deliberative and collaborative societies.

F. P2P interactions attempt to minimize mediating forces or organizations.
Hierachies that impose governance on p2p interactions that are otherwise
consistent with social standards and laws are not appropriate to the ethos.
This is particularly true if the party imposing governance is acting with
some interest other than enabling smooth, stable and harmless p2p
interactions.

G. A p2p ethos is inconsistent with the purposeful extraction of value from
interactions when no such value is contributed directly to a given
interaction. Simply enabling future actions is not a creation of p2p value
worthy of repeated compensation. That is, royalties or licensing fees are
not consistent with a p2p ethos.

H. A P2P ethos is consistent with advancing the interests of the
underprivileged, the weak, those on the bottom of the digital divide, or any
who have need of a more sustaining commons provided through fair and honest
means.

I. Unless dire political consequences are involved, peers should not be
anonymous[3]<http://p2pfoundation.net/Core_Peer-2-Peer_Collaboration_Principles#_note-Anonymity>.


J. What to avoid: P2P specifically does not aim to circumvent human rights,
democratically enacted laws, rightfully established organizational controls,
or legitimate claims of property in force. Rather, p2p seeks to build and
expand common resources that are expressly free, open, collaborative and
mutually beneficial.

Ryan Lanham



On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Ryan,
>
> only a minor remark then for this first section, I feel I agree with all
> your formulations
>
>  On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Ryan,
>>
>> I have been overwhelmed lately, but ready now to engage with your core
>> principles,
>>
>> Would it be useful for you to discuss your draft, say section by section,
>> starting with this:
>>
>> If you agree, I will start commenting after receiving that reply:
>>
>> Article 1. P2P Interactions
>>
>> A. High quality P2P <http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P> interactions exist
>> between peers. Peers typically recognize and interact with each other
>> without reference to rank or hierarchies<http://p2pfoundation.net/Core_Peer-2-Peer_Collaboration_Principles?title=Hierarchies&action=edit&redlink=1>.
>>
>>
>
> Here a reference to Equipotentiality may be useful? see
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Equipotentiality
>
>
>>  B. Peers' willingness to interact is not primarily linked to external
>> drivers. External drivers might include, for example, prestige in
>> undertaking an interaction, financial gain, or duty.
>>
>> C. P2P interactions are not amoral or value neutral. A p2p ethos embodies
>> trying to act with goodness and goodwill<http://p2pfoundation.net/Core_Peer-2-Peer_Collaboration_Principles?title=Goodwill&action=edit&redlink=1>as well as with practical skills and wisdom.
>>
>> D. Peer interactions are judged (by others who aspire to a p2p ethos) as
>> qualitatively superior if linked to contributing to a commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Commons>.
>>
>>
>> E. Another measure of quality is the contribution to mission critical
>> functionality <http://p2pfoundation.net/Mission_critical_functionality>.
>> For example, this might involve efforts that save lives, advance learning
>> and understanding, enable sustainable economic processes or otherwise
>> support or enable key components of the public good as openly understood in
>> free, deliberative and collaborative societies.
>>
>> F. P2P interactions attempt to minimize mediating forces or organizations.
>> Hierachies that impose governance on p2p interactions that are otherwise
>> consistent with social standards and laws are not appropriate to the ethos.
>> This is particularly true if the party imposing governance is acting with
>> some interest other than enabling smooth, stable and harmless p2p
>> interactions.
>>
>> G. A p2p ethos is inconsistent with the purposeful extraction of value
>> from interactions when no such value is contributed directly to a given
>> interaction. Simply enabling future actions is not a creation of p2p value
>> worthy of repeated compensation. That is, royalties or licensing fees are
>> not consistent with a p2p ethos.
>>
>> H. Unless dire political consequences are involved, peers should not be
>> anonymous[3]<http://p2pfoundation.net/Core_Peer-2-Peer_Collaboration_Principles#_note-Anonymity>.
>>
>>
>> I. What to avoid: P2P specifically does not aim to circumvent human
>> rights, democratically enacted laws, rightfully established organizational
>> controls, or legitimate claims of property in force. Rather, p2p seeks to
>> build and expand common resources that are expressly free, open,
>> collaborative and mutually beneficial.
>>
>
> I probably agree with does not aim, but neither would it be opposed to
> legimate attempts to change them, see for example the landless movement in
> Brazil?
>
> Michel
>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Working at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhurakij_Pundit_University -
>> http://www.dpu.ac.th/dpuic/info/Research.html -
>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
>>
>> Volunteering at the P2P Foundation:
>> http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net -
>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com
>>
>> Monitor updates at http://del.icio.us/mbauwens
>>
>> The work of the P2P Foundation is supported by SHIFTN,
>> http://www.shiftn.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Working at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhurakij_Pundit_University -
> http://www.dpu.ac.th/dpuic/info/Research.html -
> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
>
> Volunteering at the P2P Foundation:
> http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net -
> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com
>
> Monitor updates at http://del.icio.us/mbauwens
>
> The work of the P2P Foundation is supported by SHIFTN,
> http://www.shiftn.com/
>
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