[p2p-research] P2P Email

[marc fawzi]

And the idea of True P2P Email is that it would be as simple as
downloading a client software to your machine rather than having a
technician install SMTP/POP servers and configure routers, firewalls,
etc

try running SMTP on your machine... sitting behind a NAT or some
firewall.... won't work, and you'd have to configure your router etc..
most users don't know how to configure a router



On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:13 AM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> the only thing for which IPv6 would be needed is quantity, ie have
>> enough static IP addresses for every computer and then some.
>> Everything else you describe it's either built-in the IPv4 protocol
>> (path redundancy) or in DNS or already possible today. I and the lots
>> of other individual or businesses of any size who already run their
>> **own** mail servers **already** constitute, as a whole, "resilient
>> p2p email that does not crash unless the entire Internet goes down".
>>
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> Absolutely misinformed re: IPv6
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> IPv6 RFC and all known stacks support device to device communication
> (tunneling thru routers, NATs, bridges, etc)
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>> The reasons more people don't already do the same is a mix of cost,
>> real or perceived lack of skills, ignorance of the possibilities and
>> so on, but certainly not the lack of IPv6.
>>
>>> So when IPv6 is finally here, and it's been ages (I wonder if it's
>>> held up because of its potential to disrupt centralized structures
>>> of power on the Internet)
>>
>> What I've been sincerely wondering for months now is how it's possible
>> that a p2p-research and advocacy list, of all places, has so many
>> members "running" their own email with gmail, that is in the way which
>> is as far as possible from P2P ideals and suggested practices, a way
>> which relies on one huge provider with bunches of large, very
>> centrally managed data centers. I'm on tenths of lists and the
>> percentage of gmail addresses among, say, the 20/30% most active users
>> is far higher here than in any other of them.
>>
>> With respect to IPv6 conspiracy theories, a few ipv6 related reading:
>>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google/?p=241 (google plans to become just an
>> IPv6 connectivity provider. Not sure how much this is worthwhile, but
>> funny food for thought at least)
>>
>> http://www.isp-planet.com/technology/2002/ipv6_world_waits.html why
>> the IPv6 switch was seen a "colossal chore" in 2002, probably some of
>> the reasons are still valid today, then there's the crisis which makes
>> less money available...
>>
>> Same for "The IPv6 mess": "Before clients can be safely deployed on
>> public IPv6 addresses, practically every server will have to learn how
>> to talk to those clients", http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/ipv6mess.html
>>
>> Marco Fioretti
>> http://mfioretti.com
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>> Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how
>> software is used *around* you:            http://digifreedom.net/node/84
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