[p2p-research] P2P Email

[paola.dimaio at gmail.com]

marco thanks for the input
i think it would be great if we could run a first experiment
of p2p mail, just tell me what to do
as long as it is not complicated
gmail is easy and has lots of functionalities attached
p

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM, M. Fioretti <mfioretti at nexaima.net> wrote:

> On Fri, May 08, 2009 04:18:28 AM -0700, marc fawzi wrote:
> > Gmail was down again today...
> >
> > When IPv6 is finally here all PCs and devices connected to the net
> > will be able to reach each other DIRECTLY, in point to point
> > fashion.
> > Now it's impossible without jumping thru hoops, with a less than
> > perfect success rate.
>
> ???
>
> the only thing for which IPv6 would be needed is quantity, ie have
> enough static IP addresses for every computer and then some.
> Everything else you describe it's either built-in the IPv4 protocol
> (path redundancy) or in DNS or already possible today. I and the lots
> of other individual or businesses of any size who already run their
> **own** mail servers **already** constitute, as a whole, "resilient
> p2p email that does not crash unless the entire Internet goes down".
>
> The reasons more people don't already do the same is a mix of cost,
> real or perceived lack of skills, ignorance of the possibilities and
> so on, but certainly not the lack of IPv6.
>
> > So when IPv6 is finally here, and it's been ages (I wonder if it's
> > held up because of its potential to disrupt centralized structures
> > of power on the Internet)
>
> What I've been sincerely wondering for months now is how it's possible
> that a p2p-research and advocacy list, of all places, has so many
> members "running" their own email with gmail, that is in the way which
> is as far as possible from P2P ideals and suggested practices, a way
> which relies on one huge provider with bunches of large, very
> centrally managed data centers. I'm on tenths of lists and the
> percentage of gmail addresses among, say, the 20/30% most active users
> is far higher here than in any other of them.
>
> With respect to IPv6 conspiracy theories, a few ipv6 related reading:
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google/?p=241 (google plans to become just an
> IPv6 connectivity provider. Not sure how much this is worthwhile, but
> funny food for thought at least)
>
> http://www.isp-planet.com/technology/2002/ipv6_world_waits.html why
> the IPv6 switch was seen a "colossal chore" in 2002, probably some of
> the reasons are still valid today, then there's the crisis which makes
> less money available...
>
> Same for "The IPv6 mess": "Before clients can be safely deployed on
> public IPv6 addresses, practically every server will have to learn how
> to talk to those clients", http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/ipv6mess.html
>
> Marco Fioretti
> http://mfioretti.com
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