[p2p-research] List of articles on Indium/Gallium Supplies
paola.dimaio at gmail.com
paola.dimaio at gmail.com
Tue May 5 11:52:45 CEST 2009
I think new scientist covered it
one more reason to recycle every inch of it
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19426051.200-earths-natural-wealth-an-audit.html
(when waste recycling/street cleaning is going to be hip)
http://blogs.wsj.com/informedreader/2007/05/25/a-metal-scare-to-rival-the-oil-scare/
consumers should be taught which bits of their devices whould be handled,
and how
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Tere Vadén <tere.vaden at uta.fi> wrote:
> An interesting article "Minerals scarcity: A call for managed austerity
> and the elements of hope" with discussion:
> http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/5239#more
>
>
> marc fawzi wrote:
> > It's really not an attack on anyone's work.
> >
> > I am just SURPRISED and PUZZLED by the claim that several key
> > technologies vital to telecom, high frequency electronics and weapon
> > systems will have to be replaced in the next 15 years.
> >
> > 1 - GaAs FETs (Gallium Arsenide Field Effect Transistors which are
> > everywhere in telecom equipment, cell phones and sll high-frequency
> > electronics, including HDTV broadcast equipment and TVs)
> >
> > 2 - GaAS IR laser diodes in all DVD players and in military electronics
> >
> > 3- GaN FETs as the basis for post-silicon microchips that can continue
> > to uphold Moore's law (there are other more exotic alternatives to
> > silicon but not sure if the fab processes are as well developed, so I
> > would have some concern or at least questions to answer if Gallium was
> > indeed running out, i.e. how will we continue to uphold Moore's law
> > realistically speaking in the next 25 years?)
> >
> > 4 - Indium (as ITO) in all LCD displays (I am less concerned with
> > availability of Indium for LCD displays since organic LEDs are the
> > future of flat panel displays an they are already here and in
> > production in a growing flat panel displays)
> >
> > 5 - Indium in new generation solar cells, including radiation hardened
> > ones used in satellites (I'm quite concerned here because hundreds of
> > millions of dollars have gone into developing InGaN, InN, and InGaP
> > based solar panels specifically for more efficient solar cells and
> > besides photosynthesis I have no clue if there is a replacement for
> > Indium on the horizon)
> >
> > In other words, if the claim that we're running out has any truth to
> > it, it would wreck havoc on telecom, HDTV, high efficiency solar cells
> > and weapon systems production.
> >
> > The next step in this debate is to get the analysis and the data used
> > in the analysis from those who are promoting the conclusion that we
> > are running out of gallium (and indium although the latter would be a
> > much more confined disruption), whomever they had gotten it from in
> > the first place.
> >
> > It's not a big deal to look at an analysis and consider it carefully.
> > It may be the story of the century and would make first page on Wired
> > and IEEE Times if it's true.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:02 PM, M. Fioretti <mfioretti at nexaima.net>
> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 11:54:35 AM -0800, marc fawzi wrote:
> >>
> >>> We had ample debate but (after asking twice) no one has provided a
> >>> link to the paper that says gallium/indium supplies are at risk of
> >>> being depleted in the short term.
> >> It just occurred to me that the right thing to do, or one of them at
> >> least, would have been to contact directly A. Reller (the author of
> >> that paper) and ask _him_ to put the paper online and/or comment to
> >> the pages posted here which attak his thesis. I'm really sorry I
> >> didn't think of this sooner.
> >>
> >> Reller's email address is armin.reller, at physik.uni-augsburg.de.
> >> I've already written to him privately and will report here any
> >> feedback, but obviously you're all encouraged to do the same.
> >>
> >> Ciao,
> >> Marco F.
> >> http://mfioretti.net
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