[p2p-research] 21st Century Socialism: Eleven Talking Points

[Samuel Rose]

>
>         Hello,
>
>        I agree with Michel, we have to connect two traditions
>        of fighting for freedom : one coming fromthe industrial
>        age, as a fight for propertyand control over means of
>        production and one emerging from the information age,
>        refusing new enclosures over interllectual property
>        and establishing new commons.



Hervé  I see what you mean. What you describe is an emerging system. One
that creates whole new infrastructure for basic needs, from food production,
to production of physical goods, to social governance rule systems, and
massively open data streams about all of the dimensions of the envrionments
we live it (social, ecological, economic, etc) This really combines
information and industrial alternative systems into one system.


I spent some time reading through your paper, although I don't totally
understad French, I was able to get an idea of what you are discussing. I
had never heard of ATTAC previously. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATTAC

I can see how this is vital throughout Europe, as energies are better spent
finding intersecting areas of interest, than defining differences, and
socialist movements look to be strongly represented in Europe (but also in
South and Central America, Asia, and small contingents in North America.)

I also wonder if it is plausible that where there is more government
regulations directly on economics, banking, and individual business
practice, agricultural practice, etc: there tends to be more political
socialist activity? That is just a theory. That the pressure and contraints
of over-governing with very little representation often sees political
emregence of more traditional socialist and revolutionary poltical activism.

Meanwhile, supposedly de-regulated markets like the United States see an
extreme of those with the most hoarded money having the most power within
the system. Socialist activism doesn't emerge here so much (there were some
flare-ups in the 1990's), but it is important to note that it *could* if
regulation starts constraining emerging local commons-based economy
movements.





>
>
>        I wrote an article on this subject, explaining to
>        ones issued from the first model (the altermondialist
>        association ATTAC) the new opportunities opened by
>        the free software movement.
>
>        I'm sorry, it's in french, so few people can read this.
>        But if it's of interest for some of you...
>
>        Yours,
>
> Hervé Le Crosnier
>
>


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