[p2p-research] the abundance of art

[marc fawzi]

"it" IS all MIND

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:38 AM, <paola.dimaio at gmail.com> wrote:

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>> and you see you what I mean?  The light reflecting from a [future] perfect
>> replica will be exactly the same as the light reflecting from the original
>> from all angles and degrees... so why would the original be more vauable.
>> It's human nature
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> I think I know what you mean, that due to our human nature we attach a
> higher value to an original, than to its copies even when absolutely
> perfectly the same.
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> For me though, an original piece of art is not just the product, the
> exterior visible shape that we can see, but an intention, a 'first' a
> breakthrough of logical scheme perhaps, a step that has never been taken
> before, a way that reality has never been conceived or seen as before, and
> as such ti vibrates at a unique frequency. A real original piece of art, and
> I have seen only a few, has an essence that is not reproducible, because it
> was generated by unique circumstances, in a unique space/time conjunction,
> which was expressed in a unique/unprecedented brilliant form, and captured
> sculpted or painted and will stay there forever. So what I am trying to say
> is that the original and the copy are definitely not the same for me, even
> when the latter is perfect. I would be interested to  explore the
> possibility that its all in the mind though.
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> Abundance is perhaps donating it to a foundation, making it accessible free
> of charge to everyone forever and having chairs next to it so that people
> can actually sit nearby, and allowing copies to be made and circulated.
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> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:03 AM, <paola.dimaio at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> It seems that, despite art itself being intrinsically abundant, the
>>> physical products of 'high art' (not the digital product), e.g. a Picasso
>>> painting, are given some kind of scarce quality by people (a spiritual,
>>> emotional or superstitious value) that makes them rare (or special) even if
>>> they can be replicated ad infinitum and in an exact manner .
>>>
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>> actually, I am not sure about replicability
>> Having seen a few original masterpieces, and their copies, a very special
>> energy and strenght emanates from the former
>> My definition of a work of art is that it is a unique, and communicates
>> some unique in a unique way
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>> this is why, I think, they are placed in public galleries where everyone
>> can enjoy them,  I will be interested in contrasting abundance vs uniqueness
>> in art, and maybe we could organise an exhibition one day about it
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>>> Definitely related to p2p. The issue of why we create artificial scarcity
>>> or why we seek it is core to the p2p economy.
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>>> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 5:54 PM, <paola.dimaio at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> oh yes, found it
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>>>> (sorry if not directly relevant to p2p, but definitely
>>>> a collective, and part of the commons imho)
>>>>
>>>> just for completeness
>>>>
>>>> the one i saw in Germany years ago was the Prinzhorn collection
>>>> http://www.prinzhorn.uni-hd.de/beispiele/himmel_eng.shtml
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>>>> discussed here  in a broader context
>>>> http://www.gseart.com/exhibitions.asp?ExhID=455
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>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:35 AM, <paola.dimaio at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> I saw an exhibition about ten year or so ago, not sure where
>>>>> but I seem to remember Germany, there is also an exhibition book going
>>>>> around,
>>>>> it was the most beautiful art work made by psychiatric patients
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure its the same or just similar
>>>>> but its on in London, lots of interesting links also to be found on the
>>>>> web
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>>>>> http://www.wellcomecollection.org/press/2009/WTX053734.htm
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>>>>>> Even if your,re clinically insane you can make great art
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>>>> --
>>>> Paola Di Maio,
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>>> Marc Fawzi
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>> --
>> Paola Di Maio,
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> Marc Fawzi
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> Paola Di Maio,
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