[p2p-research] downward to tribes or upwards to networks

[Michel Bauwens]

thanks for the clarification,

Michel

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 3:06 AM, David Ronfeldt <ronfeldt at mac.com> wrote:

>
> I did not know about Quinn and Rohrbaugh‘s CVA model until today.  Now I’ve
> read up a bit.  It’s famous in its area.  And it’s relevant to my TIMN
> effort.  To sketch quickly, their effort results in four quadrants about
> what a company requires:  an internal process model (for keeping order); an
> open system model (for adaptability); a rational goal model (for assuring
> productivity); and a human relations model (for morale).
>
> Soon as I read this, I thought about bygone sociologist Talcott Parsons.
>  And in fact Quinn and Rohrbaugh (1983) remark at length on the overlap of
> their model with his (which fell into disrepute, much attacked from the
> Left, for being too stability-oriented in the 1960s).
>
> Parsons’ “general theory of action” identifies four “functional
> imperatives” that every social system and its sub-systems must perform:
>  “pattern-maintenance (including tension-management), goal-attainment,
> adaptation, and integration” (Parsons, 1958, p. 294).  In my view, these
> imperatives correspond roughly to the TIMN forms:  pattern-maintenance to
> the tribal form, goal-attainment to the institutional hierarchy form,
> adaptation to the market form, and system-integration to the network form.
> But the way that Quinn and Rohrbaugh depict their own model and then relate
> it to Parsons’ four imperatives doesn’t quite match up with my view of TIMN.
>  The clearest match is of their human relations model, with Parsons’ pattern
> maintenance, with my T form.  The disparities have something to do with the
> two axes they use to define their quadrants.
>
> ===
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2009, at 1:54 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
>  Interesting discussion in the comment area after a challenge by John robb
>> at
>> http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2009/03/societal-evolution-and-timn.html
>>
>> (it also rediscusses the relation between ronfeldt and fiske)
>>
>> One of the comments refer to the following, I'm wondering if anyone has
>> background on this one:
>>
>>
>> There seem to be important connections and complementarities between TIMN
>> and the Competing Values Approach of Quinn and Rohrbaugh. If TIMN and CVA
>> can be put together it might be more than the sum of the parts.
>>
>> Michel
>>
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