[p2p-research] Open Business Models

Fri Mar 6 16:03:49 CET 2009

I worked on this a while ago too:
http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/OpenBusinessModel

That is an entire wiki I created devoted to open business models.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:

> I guess I do not own the definition, but I disagree, I think I'll stand by
> my definition.
>
> Any other important input on defining more precisely 'open business models'
>
> I guess you are referring to business plans in the public domain, while I'm
> referring to practices of businesses that may or not be in the public domain
> (though open accounting could conceivably be part of it). There are probably
> degrees in openness, that should be part of the definition.
>
> So I think yours should be called open business plans.
>
> Michel
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Nathan Cravens <knuggy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Michel,
>>
>> That is a very good definition of what it is not! So let's revise your
>> definition to reflect what it is!
>>
>> Open Business Models are strategic business plans in the public domain
>> designed to replicate rapidly and accelerate market competition for
>> products and services with reduced cost and utmost quality.
>>
>> I typed that up in two mins or less... What do you think? I'll get back to
>> it after I've read more on Open Business Plans ;)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nathan,
>>>
>>> do you have an official definition?
>>>
>>> here's a proposal:
>>>
>>> Open Business Models are models that do not rely on privatising
>>> intellectual property and hence do not impede the uptake of innovations by
>>> the rest of humanity.
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Nathan Cravens <knuggy at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>   This is my very first edit here at Appropedia. Wish me luck!
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in understanding what an "Open Business Model" is
>>>> because of what I think they might be able to do for humankind, but have
>>>> some questions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1.) Does 'Open' mean that the designs (such as mechanical drawings or
>>>> medicinal information (chemistry?)) of the products from such a business are
>>>> available under an Open Source license, or are Public Domain?
>>>>
>>>> I hope so, for that is very important and good, since 'Closed' design is
>>>> bad for us as an entire species when it stops us from helping each other.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2.) Do you know of any person or group working on the 'complement' to
>>>> this important initiative? By 'complement' I mean ... whew, this is hard to
>>>> put into words ... I'm trying to ask about the "non-design" side of things.
>>>>
>>>> If an Open Business releases the rights to make a product, then at least
>>>> we can avoid paying THOSE royalties, but the common person still doesn't
>>>> have the ability to actually MAKE any of those products because needed
>>>> machines are still too expensive.
>>>>
>>>> What I'm trying to ask is: Does (or will) the definition of Open
>>>> Business Models <http://www.appropedia.org/Open_Business_Models> here
>>>> at Appropedia include some attempt to solve this problem of access, and if
>>>> not, are there any known initiatives that do address it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, SarahTrane
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> This is my first full length chat session in wiki form!
>>>>
>>>> Hi Sarah,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for addressing the issue of Open and what that means in the
>>>> context of Business or elsewhere. No doubt it will be argued for some time
>>>> to come!
>>>>
>>>> I started Open Business Models<http://www.appropedia.org/Open_Business_Models>out of necessity to address practical ways to develop and deploy Open Source
>>>> Fab Labs used to give people further access as you put it.
>>>>
>>>> By "Open" I mean Public Domain. No one is to get a financial return or
>>>> "royalty" for using an Open Business Plan, because that royalty is seen more
>>>> as a cost in the long run. Licensing is important here only to protect
>>>> Public Domain content from being taken and legally patented due to some
>>>> legal technicality.
>>>>
>>>> We now need to look for a license that works in terms of Open Business
>>>> plans and make it clear just what the terms are. If a license for the topic
>>>> under discussion does not exist, we need to work with the communities that
>>>> love and know well the areas of intellectual property to write one with us.
>>>>
>>>> So, once that definition of Open is made clear, the statement of an Open
>>>> Business Model is exceptionally revolutionary, because of the assumption
>>>> behind it. What we're (you, I, and others) saying by presenting an Open
>>>> Business Model is this: I'm using this model and I want you to use it too,
>>>> because it will generate more value for yourself and I in the long run if as
>>>> many people as possible put it to practice. That is practice in terms of
>>>> Abundance rather than scarcity.
>>>>
>>>> So let's make an example out of this definition of Open and Business:
>>>>
>>>> *I want to produce a Fab Lab to make 'almost' anything, but first need
>>>> money to build one, but I'm not interested in profit so much as getting
>>>> these labs up globally for abundant access so people can make what they want
>>>> to have (rather than purchasing it). In prospect, once these labs are
>>>> ubiquitous, I will ask "how can I make this?" rather than "where can I buy
>>>> this?" Knowing this foreseeable reality makes the presentation of Open
>>>> Business plans even more relevant*
>>>>
>>>> *I then go to the market and see what's selling for a high return
>>>> that's easiest to make with as few tools and resources as possible. Once
>>>> I've reverse engineered (open sourced) the thing and simplified the
>>>> production process (potentially ignorant of patent law) I can now build it
>>>> in our feeble lab and sell it for a return (like on Ebay) in order to put
>>>> more tools in the lab which are then reverse engineered and resold to
>>>> produce more fabrication tools and so on until a fully replicable Open
>>>> Source Fab Lab is in every town around the world.*
>>>>
>>>> Open Business Models are used with the understanding it is a race to the
>>>> bottom financially speaking and that this race is a good thing, because it
>>>> means abundance (real wealth) is generated in the process.
>>>>
>>>> To better address your question, Open Business Models began to increase
>>>> rather than restrict access.
>>>>
>>>> I will address this issue with the p2presearch discussion list and place
>>>> a link to that archive here once its generated.
>>>>
>>>> With that said, here's some resources that can help our projects:
>>>>
>>>> An Open Business hub which provides the two additional links to this
>>>> small list. http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Business
>>>>
>>>> OpenBusiness Guide 1.0
>>>> http://wiki.icommons.org/index.php/The_OpenBusiness_Guide
>>>>
>>>> Community Blog / Resource for Open Business http://www.openbusiness.cc/
>>>>
>>>> I wrote the content here mostly ignorant of how others define Open
>>>> Business, described in the resources linked.
>>>>
>>>> In discussion we can better determine what resources to add to the Open
>>>> Business Model page at Appropedia to save the confusion you experienced.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nathan Cravens
>>>> Effortless Economy
>>>>
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