[p2p-research] Open Source Ecology

[Smári McCarthy]

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Hi all,

I have to agree with Franz here. I thank him for the kind words about my
most recent rant, but the rant itself highlights a certain problem: I
am, much like many people here, much better at ranting on endlessly
about the theoretical points than making good of them on a practical
level. Whilst the theoretical musings are very very important, if they
aren't backed up with proof of concept and running code (to borrow a
phrase) it isn't worth a lot.

Open Source Ecology and Global Villages and so on are really doing the
gruntwork here. There's lots and lots of running code. What we need to
do collectively is map out that code, see what's working and why, and
start mapping our theoretical insights onto proofs of concept. There's
plenty of things that are working that we don't understand, and there's
plenty of things that aren't working for reasons that we do understand.

Bridge the gap, people!

 - Smári


Franz Nahrada wrote:
> Sorry Michel I cant do anything but fly over the messages in P2P research
> from time to time; the discussion is really interesting (especially I
> liked Smaris rant about anarchism with many good insights). but for me at
> least part of the discussion is less important than the practical
> experiment. I think it is utterly important to rally around common
> activities or ongoing projects and describe them better. Let us demand to
> test what really works. It could as belief-blowing as a succesful test of
> nuclear fusion, and similarily uncomfortable and disturbing even for the
> enlightened mind. For example, I think we will not have a satisfactory
> answer to the money problem unless we really put different proposals to
> work out in regional scale (including what I still would prefer to
> describe as non-reciprocal gift economies, commons-based contribution
> economies and other schemes, keeping in mind that really the property
> question remains n fact central). And we all as different as we are have a
> clearly defined common interest to let such things like experiments in
> social innovation happen, and at a higher level, we should be able to
> formulate such an interest and give it political form - and also give some
> part of our energy to the promotion of such experiments. Never before the
> public ear has been more receptive to such proposals, but I see more than
> ever before nothing but idiots dominating the political scene who just
> claim to have a clue to everything.
> 
> This has to change radically. There is incredible thirst for another
> anwer. And I hope that we will be able to discuss that soon when we meet.
> 
> Furthermore and regarding the currently most promising social experiment
> and its implications, I issued a post on the globalvillages list and added
> a second one to stimulate our communities to take part in the critical
> phase of transformation of Open Source Ecology into a virtual global
> endavour. Its simply not true that developments like these could happen
> spontaneusly, it needs a lot of help and participation and critical
> cooperation of intellectuals and bright minds. I see my function as a
> door-opener who facilitates mental and communicational bridges between
> people and the many meaningful movements that construct the patterns of
> tomorrow.
> 
> In this sense, I would just like to draw your attention and the attention
> of all readers of the p2presearch list to the following two posts:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/globalvillages/message/4004
> 
> where I describe the current phase of the project and ask for
> participation in a particular project
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/globalvillages/message/4016
> 
> where I seek to make a point against underestimation of this movement also
> within our own circles.
> 
> both posts are meant for broader distribution.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Franz
> 
> 
> 
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