[p2p-research] Collapse

[Michel Bauwens]

Hi Tomas,

there are solutions to both issues that jared addresses,

are you aware of equal share fishing, not sure about the exact name, a
commons approach to fishing which has successfully solved overfishing in
some areas?

cap and dividend would be a similar approach to climate change (different
from cap and trade),

I can provide details of both,

but how do you see consumption as a positive force?

Michel

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Tomas Rawlings <tom at fluffylogic.net> wrote:

> I am reading Jared Diamond's book Collapse: How societies choose to fail or
> survive.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_(book)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_%28book%29>
>
> An interesting read, which in the section on what we can do to aviod
> collapse there are some interesting points re commons and peers.  The points
> he makes are;
> - If people perceived that the commons, far from being common is somebody
> else problem, then they won't act effectively.  But where people feel a
> value of the commons and know the impact, they can join an act more
> effectively.  So the climate, a commons, but people don't see it as such?
> - Even if people know that an action (e.g. overfishing) may damage a
> commons, if the perception is that somebody else will do the damage if that
> individual does not anyway (so if fisherman A does not catch the fish
> worrying about overfishing, then fisherman B will), they there is a personal
> loss to them while there is no change in the overall health of the commons.
>  (I have seen examples of this issue being overcome, i.e. if a fisherman
> catches a pregnant lobster, it is kept alive and taken to a holding area to
> give birth then claimed by the fisherman, but the young are still in the
> commons)
> - the consumption end is potentially a good force for positive action, but
> they would need to be unified to act - a point for peers perhaps?
>
> Anyway, it is an interesting book!
>
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> Tomas
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