[p2p-research] Google's wave ends email?

[Michel Bauwens]

thanks sepp, I clicked the publish button by accident ...

Michel

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Sepp Hasslberger <sepp at lastrega.com> wrote:

> Hi Michel, Nathan, others
> I made a short piece introducing the Google Wave on the blog. It's a draft
> for now and can be seen here:
>
> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=3356&preview=true
>
> If there are no objections, I will put it on line.
>
> Kind regards
> Sepp
>
>
>
>
> On 02/giu/09, at 04:20, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
> Thanks for all these comments ...  Is there anyone who could piece together
> Ryan and Nathan's comments for a blog posting?
>
> your assistance would be really appreciated!
>
> and Nathan: I can't wait for your 'pretty clear general view' as well, hope
> you can describe the path to the fridge ...
>
> Michel
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Nathan Cravens <knuggy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This buzz arrived just as I've pieced together a pretty clear general view
>> on how we might go about creating an entirely post-scarcity environment.
>> What timing! Wave is the sort of hyperaggregator that can adapt to what I
>> have in mind--in part expressed below. 'Wave' is a useful term to describe
>> "collaberative design" in one word--fab.
>>
>> Conversations are easier to track in Wave. It is backwards compatible with
>> e-mail, so a conversation in a wave can remain sent as an e-mail. When it
>> becomes a better tool in practice, and folk continue to speak well of it, we
>> may be witnessing here the last of e-mail conversation.
>>
>> What I'm most interest in is Wave's ability to port in user generated
>> programs, like software and hardware design ware, and view within the
>> wave--from birth to the very moment--who made changes to a design and how
>> the design changed over time. By viewing a design history, we might find
>> something worked better previously than existing. Photo sharing or
>> collaborative essay writing are simple examples, but I'm more interested in
>> seeing how this tool is used in collaborative infrastructure or systems
>> design itself.
>>
>> An infrastructure map might begin with the layout of NYCResistor's
>> hackerspace graphically represented as a floorplan after a wave search for
>> "NYCResistor." This layout is itself a series of waves, one wave for
>> 'MakerBot' another for the 'Lazor X', ect. The waves 'MakerBot' and 'X
>> Lazor' may be generated without knowing about NYCResistor at all, but
>> because NYCResistor uses these tools, the established waves describing the
>> MakerBot and X Lazor are more detailed and adopted with a special wave layer
>> for Resistor's particular tools. The devices then, based on user
>> preferences, communicate with the wave to report a tool's activity.
>> Something like that would aid Resistor's collaberation with our friends at
>> Skynet--I'm all for that.
>>
>> This program will help encourage collaboration by enabling the place for
>> any variety of app useful to generating a collaberative design. It will
>> encourage competition for reputation by enabling users to observe design
>> progress. The aggregations of these apps into a single program means more
>> potential for the cross pollination mentioned in the NYCResistor example.
>>
>> Ryan says:
>>
>>> A cynic could say that corporations will always be untrustworthy and that
>>> the cheat will always wait until the most fateful moment.  An optimist would
>>> say that we are entering a new age of openness and sharing while still
>>> recognizing markets and innovation deserve financial recognition where
>>> desired.  The truth is probably somewhere inbetween.
>>
>>
>> This is a very smart move if we look at Google's stock price decline over
>> the past two years. What I see Wave affectively doing is managing Google's
>> risk by open sourcing the ware, making it a general enough app to add user
>> generated widgets, including Google's apps, so when the firm fails, the tool
>> remains usable under increasing post-scarcity conditions.
>>
>> Google:
>> http://www93.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=google+
>>
>> I see this program being used to locate a variety of previous discussions
>> here and on other lists formed into functional programs inspired by the
>> verbiage: like Michel's F/OS Fridge. ;)
>>
>>
>> Nathan
>>
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