[p2p-research] the culture of the audit and the prefigurative politics of the local food movement

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 28 10:33:41 CEST 2009


No, I don't want to exclusively put the consumers in charge and create a
serfdom for the workers, but rather a co-governance between stakeholders
consisting of both workers, consumers and other parties.

The issue of cost relates to the choice for 'light' regulation approaches
that do not overly burden small decentralized producers,

Michel

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius at gmail.com>wrote:

> Michel Bauwens wrote:
> > A minimal amount of regulation, that takes into account the issue of
> cost,
> > is in my view necessary.
>
> Michel, what do you mean that regulation must "take into account the
> issue of cost"?
>
>
> > For example, in the no-trust country where I live, you cannot rely on
> > self-declared organic nor on self-regulation of financially interested
> > parties; only a form of regulation that involves different stakeholders,
> and
> > perhaps checked by some public authority, would do the trick ...
> >
> > Unless you live in a village where you know everyone, and you fully trust
> > the word of your supplier, could you rely on absolutely non-regulated
> > production, in my view,
>
> There is one other case that would put you, the consumer, in ultimate
> control *without* external (governmental) audits, but most consider it
> taboo.
>
> If you, along with a group of other concerned consumers, co-owned the
> Means of that Production, then you would have ultimate (above
> management level) control of your portion of the output; and so, could
> direct the high-level goals without necessarily having the skills
> needed to accomplish those goals.
>
> But that Mode of Production is too efficient, since the Profit we have
> been hypnotized into believing should be in the pockets of those
> workers would fail to be collected from the consumer - since you, the
> consumer, must have already paid all the costs of production before
> completion and are left with ownership of the product as a side-effect
> of your ownership in the Means.
>
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