[p2p-research] Fwd: Free Manufacturing idea

Fri Jul 17 18:09:39 CEST 2009

If I can ask for a favour, at some point, thanks for describing this project
for our p2p blog as well!!

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Smári McCarthy <smari at anarchism.is> wrote:

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> For those on this list not willing or capable to plow through LaTex
> code, I have compiled a PDF file from the current GIT tree and have put
> it here: http://smari.yaxic.org/fmas.pdf
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> There is a definite towards solutions going on, keep the ball rolling guys!
>
>  -S
>
> Kārlis Repsons wrote:
> > Hi Smári!
> >
> > I appreciate your interest and I believe, that we have quite a bit to
> discuss,
> > but there is still a problem, that communication environment hasn't been
> set
> > up. There is at least one more interested person with mechanical
> engineering
> > background in freeknowledge.eu.
> > So, please let us set environment up (currently publicly negotiated at
> > discussion at freeknowledge.eu) and then we should be able to discuss and
> build
> > things!
> >
> > See some answers below.
> >
> > On Friday 17 July 2009 10:20:24 you wrote:
> >> Karlis,
> >>
> >>   This sounds like a good project.
> > It is, of course, intended to be, but serious work must be done still.
> >
> >>   I have been doing some work with Bryan Bishop, Ben Lipkowitz and Sam
> >> Rose (CC'd) on the idea of creating a database of manufacturing
> >> processes where each defines a set of inputs and outputs as well as
> >> documenting the process itself to a human readable degree.
> > There is quite much to discuss about those topics.
> >
> >>   Creating such a machine-readable database of interactions would pave
> >> the way for computational solutions of arbitrary "manufacturing graph"
> >> queries such as, "given my available stock of materials, what is the
> >> shortest path to create an electric toothbrush?"
> >>
> >>   Of course for that level of details the database would need to be
> >> extremely large and contain a multitude of object designs as well as
> >> processes. The beauty of this is, though, that the simple process of
> >> defining it makes a standard definition of datafiles
> > Even more to discuss...
> >
> >> for the
> >> manufacturing of anything, which could be adopted for use in 3D
> >> printers, CNC mills, etc.
> >>
> >>   From here we talk of capabilities: What are the manufacturing
> >> capabilities associated with a particular piece of hardware? Or rather:
> >> Which manufacturing processes are made available by a particular piece
> >> of hardware.
> >>
> >>   When we have knowledge of this, we can start geographically mapping
> >> equipment and materials, to add a "distance" notion to the question of
> >> "how to manufacture anything".
> > Hmmm, I was thinking, that databases are necessary, I guess, you have
> > developed more understanding. And you know, why I think it is good, what
> > you've described before? It might allow an appliance, feedback for theory
> and
> > ideas and make transition to Free Manufacturing more realistic.
> >
> >>   You can imagine where we go from there.
> > Well, yes, however, there may be many variations.
> >
> >>   This kind of project is no less important than the design and
> >> construction of devices like the RepRap...
> > Willing to manufacture something - sure.
> >
> >>   Now, how does this relate to your concept?
> > Given the previous, it should be documented / described properly at some
> > point.
> >
> >>   Primarily, I would argue,
> >> in that this book should be a guide on how to view the abstract notion
> >> of manufacturing given this new manufacturing ecosystem that we are
> >> trying to build.
> > It may now contain things, which were necessary for me, but are not an
> > essential knowledge, so lets not worry too much, because it is a
> community
> > book.
> >
> >> It should document equipment, common analytical,
> >> chemical, mechanical and computational processes, and methodology, and
> >> should generally serve as an entry point for people into the world of
> >> free manufacturing.
> >>
> >>   Perhaps you think of this differently, and that's fine, these are just
> >> my two cents.
> >>
> >>   It's good to have you on board! Your background in CFD could help with
> >> a lot of things that would be highly beneficial, such as defining a
> >> parametric design for Tesla turbines...
> > Any serious CFD project is typically "heavy", so at this time its
> certainly
> > postponed or with low priority.
> >
> >> and more generally easy
> >> accessible documentation and modeling software would be great.
> > Well, as you should know, there is OpenFOAM. However, documentation,
> > tutorials, openly available books - its all very lacking still.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Kārlis
> >
> >>      - Smári
> >>
> >> Michel Bauwens wrote:
> >>> Dear friends,
> >>>
> >>> here is a very important free manufacturing initiative.Karlis is asking
> >>> for feedback, Thanks for doing this,
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>
> >>>> From: Kārlis Repsons <karlis.repsons at gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:karlis.repsons at gmail.com>>
> >>>
> >>>> To: michelsub2003 at yahoo.com <mailto:michelsub2003 at yahoo.com>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:44:16 PM
> >>>> Subject: Free Manufacturing idea
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello!
> >>>>
> >>>> My name is Kārlis Repsons, I am a young physics graduate, who changed
> >>>> mind about going to CFD doctoral studies, because of perceived global
> >>> problems and
> >>>
> >>>> misuse/small value of my possible work in the field of CFD.
> >>>> What I do right now and why you are reading my letter is an idea about
> >>>> manufacturing inspired by free software. I have made some containers
> for
> >>>> collaboration on writing a book "Free Manufacturing and Support"
> >>>> already.
> >>>>
> >>>> Since you have taken up even wider initiative, it would be interesting
> >>> for me
> >>>
> >>>> to initiate some contacts with you. Freely available manufacturing
> >>>> information is of crucial importance to allow new production to happen
> >>> and be
> >>>
> >>>> improved, but I happen to think, that FM needs some reference work,
> >>>> which would contain every essential information - definitions, goals,
> >>> motivations,
> >>>
> >>>> solutions, problems and more. My solution, obviously, was to set up an
> >>>> infrastructure for writing a book and now efforts to find
> contributors.
> >>>>
> >>>> My hope is, that you could advice/participate on some sections on that
> >>> book or
> >>>
> >>>> help with contacts, so some network could be built for writing that
> >>>> book.
> >>>>
> >>>> If this is interesting, please look here:
> >>>> http://gitorious.org/free-manufacturing .
> >>>> Most of content still needs to be added, of course.
> >>>> In the precompiled book there is a section "book writing", which
> >>>> explains about technical solutions, using which it is written. They
> >>>> might be interesting for you too.
> >>>>
> >>>> Let me know about this...
> >>>> And I shake your hand for daring to work on P2P things!
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Kārlis
> >>>> (Latvia)
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