[p2p-research] Fwd: Free Manufacturing idea

Fri Jul 17 15:38:57 CEST 2009

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For those on this list not willing or capable to plow through LaTex
code, I have compiled a PDF file from the current GIT tree and have put
it here: http://smari.yaxic.org/fmas.pdf

There is a definite towards solutions going on, keep the ball rolling guys!

  -S

Kārlis Repsons wrote:
> Hi Smári!
> 
> I appreciate your interest and I believe, that we have quite a bit to discuss, 
> but there is still a problem, that communication environment hasn't been set 
> up. There is at least one more interested person with mechanical engineering 
> background in freeknowledge.eu.
> So, please let us set environment up (currently publicly negotiated at 
> discussion at freeknowledge.eu) and then we should be able to discuss and build 
> things!
> 
> See some answers below.
> 
> On Friday 17 July 2009 10:20:24 you wrote:
>> Karlis,
>>
>>   This sounds like a good project.
> It is, of course, intended to be, but serious work must be done still.
> 
>>   I have been doing some work with Bryan Bishop, Ben Lipkowitz and Sam
>> Rose (CC'd) on the idea of creating a database of manufacturing
>> processes where each defines a set of inputs and outputs as well as
>> documenting the process itself to a human readable degree.
> There is quite much to discuss about those topics.
> 
>>   Creating such a machine-readable database of interactions would pave
>> the way for computational solutions of arbitrary "manufacturing graph"
>> queries such as, "given my available stock of materials, what is the
>> shortest path to create an electric toothbrush?"
>>
>>   Of course for that level of details the database would need to be
>> extremely large and contain a multitude of object designs as well as
>> processes. The beauty of this is, though, that the simple process of
>> defining it makes a standard definition of datafiles
> Even more to discuss...
> 
>> for the 
>> manufacturing of anything, which could be adopted for use in 3D
>> printers, CNC mills, etc.
>>
>>   From here we talk of capabilities: What are the manufacturing
>> capabilities associated with a particular piece of hardware? Or rather:
>> Which manufacturing processes are made available by a particular piece
>> of hardware.
>>
>>   When we have knowledge of this, we can start geographically mapping
>> equipment and materials, to add a "distance" notion to the question of
>> "how to manufacture anything".
> Hmmm, I was thinking, that databases are necessary, I guess, you have 
> developed more understanding. And you know, why I think it is good, what 
> you've described before? It might allow an appliance, feedback for theory and 
> ideas and make transition to Free Manufacturing more realistic.
> 
>>   You can imagine where we go from there.
> Well, yes, however, there may be many variations.
> 
>>   This kind of project is no less important than the design and
>> construction of devices like the RepRap...
> Willing to manufacture something - sure.
> 
>>   Now, how does this relate to your concept?
> Given the previous, it should be documented / described properly at some 
> point.
> 
>>   Primarily, I would argue, 
>> in that this book should be a guide on how to view the abstract notion
>> of manufacturing given this new manufacturing ecosystem that we are
>> trying to build.
> It may now contain things, which were necessary for me, but are not an 
> essential knowledge, so lets not worry too much, because it is a community 
> book.
> 
>> It should document equipment, common analytical, 
>> chemical, mechanical and computational processes, and methodology, and
>> should generally serve as an entry point for people into the world of
>> free manufacturing.
>>
>>   Perhaps you think of this differently, and that's fine, these are just
>> my two cents.
>>
>>   It's good to have you on board! Your background in CFD could help with
>> a lot of things that would be highly beneficial, such as defining a
>> parametric design for Tesla turbines...
> Any serious CFD project is typically "heavy", so at this time its certainly 
> postponed or with low priority.
> 
>> and more generally easy 
>> accessible documentation and modeling software would be great.
> Well, as you should know, there is OpenFOAM. However, documentation, 
> tutorials, openly available books - its all very lacking still. 
> 
> Best wishes,
> Kārlis
> 
>> 	- Smári
>>
>> Michel Bauwens wrote:
>>> Dear friends,
>>>
>>> here is a very important free manufacturing initiative.Karlis is asking
>>> for feedback, Thanks for doing this,
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>
>>>> From: Kārlis Repsons <karlis.repsons at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:karlis.repsons at gmail.com>>
>>>
>>>> To: michelsub2003 at yahoo.com <mailto:michelsub2003 at yahoo.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:44:16 PM
>>>> Subject: Free Manufacturing idea
>>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> My name is Kārlis Repsons, I am a young physics graduate, who changed
>>>> mind about going to CFD doctoral studies, because of perceived global
>>> problems and
>>>
>>>> misuse/small value of my possible work in the field of CFD.
>>>> What I do right now and why you are reading my letter is an idea about
>>>> manufacturing inspired by free software. I have made some containers for
>>>> collaboration on writing a book "Free Manufacturing and Support"
>>>> already.
>>>>
>>>> Since you have taken up even wider initiative, it would be interesting
>>> for me
>>>
>>>> to initiate some contacts with you. Freely available manufacturing
>>>> information is of crucial importance to allow new production to happen
>>> and be
>>>
>>>> improved, but I happen to think, that FM needs some reference work,
>>>> which would contain every essential information - definitions, goals,
>>> motivations,
>>>
>>>> solutions, problems and more. My solution, obviously, was to set up an
>>>> infrastructure for writing a book and now efforts to find contributors.
>>>>
>>>> My hope is, that you could advice/participate on some sections on that
>>> book or
>>>
>>>> help with contacts, so some network could be built for writing that
>>>> book.
>>>>
>>>> If this is interesting, please look here:
>>>> http://gitorious.org/free-manufacturing .
>>>> Most of content still needs to be added, of course.
>>>> In the precompiled book there is a section "book writing", which
>>>> explains about technical solutions, using which it is written. They
>>>> might be interesting for you too.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know about this...
>>>> And I shake your hand for daring to work on P2P things!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Kārlis
>>>> (Latvia)
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